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OK, picture this: unexpectedly Hillary Clinton runs in the next Democratic presidential primary and wins. Sarah Palin wins in the GOP primaries too, holding off a bevy of Republican men. In 2012, there is a presidential race between these two women. Do we have any doubt who would win that race? Hillary Clinton, and it wouldn't be close. Tell that to Rebecca Traister, Anna Holmes and the New York Times.
Hillary Clinton vs. Sarah Palin 2012: Can You Imagine Who Would Win That One?
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Traister and Holmes wrote an oped for the New York Times on Sunday that got a lot of attention and provoked some major consternation. In the piece, they seem to be claiming that Sarah Palin is a new kind of superwoman, transcending anything Democrat women have to offer; that Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton have failed in the face of this powerful "mama grizzly," and that this failure (which the authors, in my opinion, have totally concocted) is to be blamed on "the left" (whoever they/we are).
- 13 votes
we would see a lot of eye rolling from Hillary and smiling, and patient explanation
and a lot of winks and you betchas and palm checks from Sarah
- 21 votes
If you ran a chihuahua b*tch against Palin the b*tch would win.
It's also less grating to listen to.
- 12 votes
Palin is famous for the same reason Snooki is famous. She's a train wreck that people love to watch. If this gives her better political credentials than Hillary Clinton the GOP might as well run Lady Gaga or Madonna on the ticket.
- 24 votes
Don't underestimate the degree of pathological misogynistic hatred that a lot of male voters feel for Hillary Clinton. Palin is obviously ignorant, but therefore also non-threatening. And she can still get away with presenting herself as a sex object. Never underestimate the capacity of the American voter for doing stupid things, especially when about 50% of the electorate may be thinking with some part of the anatomy other than the brain.
- 19 votes
Hillary Clinton vs. Sarah Palin 2012: Can You Imagine Who Would Win That One?
{raises hand} I know! I know! Not Obama?
;-)
- 5 votes
{raises hand} I know! I know! Not Obama?
LOL - I bet you were grinning when you typed that!!!!!!!!!
- 8 votes
Never underestimate the capacity of the American voter for doing stupid things, especially when about 50% of the electorate may be thinking with some part of the anatomy other than the brain.
Wow, had enough blatant misandry for the day?
The majority, at least according to polls, does not think that Sarah Palin would be an effective President.
And if we men didn't vote for her as VP the first time, what makes you think she even has a shot the second time? If Obama got replaced in favor of Hillary (which I doubt he will), then I would happily vote for another Clinton in the White House.
- 9 votes
"Hillary Clinton vs. Sarah Palin 2012: Can You Imagine Who Would Win That One?"
What an attention-grabbing headline!
Before coming to the article I was thinking - what does she mean by '...that one"? Foot race? Road race? WWF Smackdown? Celebrity boxing? Debate? Election? I considered not even reading the article - and just letting my imagination run free.
- 6 votes
One can only hope.
It's really unbelievable. Palin, Bachmann ang Angle can not appear or answer questions outside their party supporters. For me, that does not give them much of a chance at National Politics. But I like you hope we get to see and hear them try!
- 6 votes
As much as I love HRC and the thought of her being in charge, she is just to much of a divisive person. Same with Mrs. Palin.
I think whatever 3rd Party Candidate that fell off the turnip truck in November would win.
So this is hypothetical then. Whew! I thought I had stepped into the Twilight Zone for a moment.
- 3 votes
Neither one of them will run.
Which one wants to be a Ghetto overlord like they have in England!
Zoopolis, yes, of course the bitch will win in your race between the Chihuahua and Palin. But which bitch?
Redshadow: It would be 41% Clinton, 5% Palin, and 53% (rounding factors, you know) write-ins and third party candidates like Nadar and Paul (Ron, not Rand.) There may be a whole bunch of voters who could not bring themselves to vote for HRC, but there is only a handful that would ever actually consider voting for SP. Her "success" is not as a politician, but as a personality. Bet she goes on DWTS next season!!! (Although, I'd love to see her on Survivor. Can you imagine the tribal councils?)
- 2 votes
Palin 93%---Clinton 7%
That would be pretty hard to pull off considering that 71% think Palin is unqualified to be president. LOL
- 10 votes
I want Obama/Grayson in 2012. Obama can talk softly and Grayson can carry a big stick.
- 8 votes
I'm a Libertarian leaning independent, and I'd vote for the broken-hearted old mop in the Swiffer Jet commercials before I would vote for Palin. (Palin is one of the very few people that could get me to vote Democrat)
- 9 votes
red.......the dem dream ticket. The Quitter and the wizard of Oz. Democratic shoo-in!
- 3 votes
That's not fair. Positives Hillary; Like an earthen fence strong and can perform the function..Palin: like a Mazerati will do what the driver chooses with style and speed.The choice is as old as time, who do you like most?
devilsadvocates Disagree. Obama and Biden are both quitters and far out but are not yuet in Ozland.
- 1 vote
What have Obama or Biden quit for their own self-aggrandizement? Quitting to take a higher level job serving constituents isn't the same as weaseling out because one can't hack it (as Palin did).
- 7 votes
Palin took a higher-paying job which doesn't require disclosure to her constituency. She gets to wear designer clothing and is above censure for doing so. She gets to be a diva and fly first class in jets (name another soccer mom who can?) and earn $75k for speaking gibberish. She is in every newspaper, in blogs, and in e-mail forwards. That's called living in infamy. For her, it's a step up.
For us, it's careening out of control.
- 1 vote
500 hundred years ago, the Mayans predicted the world would end in Dec 2012, how did they know about Palin......
I still can't believe we're talking about Palin, I mean Paris Hilton has done more with her life than Palin.
Good seed Soph...
- 6 votes
Biden and Obama quit jobs they were elected to before the term they asked for was finished. Both for higher paying jobs. And what could be more self aggrandizing than being president or VP? They both spend in a year more taxpayer money money than what Palin will make in a lifetime. Palin was making $75,000 a year and was offered a chance to make $20m. Only an idiot would turn that down. And Palin was replaced by an ideological clone, so no lose to her voters. Obama was replaced by a corrupt idiot.
- 2 votes
They quit to become President and VP - they didn't quit to go become a media whore for money. I really can't believe you don't see the difference.
- 8 votes
I really can't believe you don't see the difference.
He does - he is just be contrary aren't you red?
- 3 votes
2012 will be Obama again... 2016 might be the "great" Hillary / Palin showdown... Hillary would win, hands down.
- 5 votes
Amy Klobuchar for President!
I love her! She should most definitely run in '16.
- 1 vote
madvargr Of course I see the difference. They are dems, she is rep. You could easily say Palin quit to make money to run for president in 12, to save the country form Obama.
If she quit and was replaced by Roland Burris, there would be reason to complain. Had Palin stayed in office and wrote her book she would have been accused of neglecting Alaska to make money. It is pure partisan politics, nothing more. Of course republicans do the same.
- 1 vote
Ben-1268009
2012 will be Obama again... 2016 might be the "great" Hillary / Palin showdown... Hillary would win, hands down.
Man, by 2016 Palin is going to be looking pretty haggard. No way the GOP "base" would vote for her once her looks are gone.
- 5 votes
They both spend in a year more taxpayer money money than what Palin will make in a lifetime.
Hardly. The President makes, I think, $300K/year.
Palin was making $75,000 a year and was offered a chance to make $20m. Only an idiot would turn that down.
A governor concerned about her constituents would have finished her term, rather than costing the state money to replace her. Palin is selfish and does not care about the people she represented.
- 8 votes
Can You Imagine Who Would Win That One?
It wouldn't be "We The People"!
- 1 vote
Obama and Biden spend many millions every year on travel, security, living in huge mansions, staff, and other perks.
It cost Alaska maybe a hundred dollars to do the paperwork for change. And her replacement was an ideological clone so no change in policy.
You are one of my two favorite liberals but this is a non issue. Alaska did not suffer. She got a better offer and took it. So what. ? I guarantee she will serve her two full presidential when elected in 2012.
- 2 votes
Man, by 2016 Palin is going to be looking pretty haggard. No way the GOP "base" would vote for her once her looks are gone.
That's only 6 years... I really doubt plastic surgeons won't be able to keep her looking decent for just 6 more years... although I agree with your premise that her looks are half her popularity with the GOP base.
- 1 vote
I guarantee she will serve her two full presidential when elected in 2012.
and I guarantee she couldn't get elected... not in 2012 at least... it would take an aweful candidate for the dems to get her elected... and even now Obama is FAR too popular for that to happen. Palin wouldn't have a chance in hell running against Obama... heck, she's half the reason he was elected in the first place.
- 3 votes
Red, it cost the state of Alaska tens of thousands of dollars when Palin left office.
You look pretty desperate and silly when you compare Palin's quitting for self-aggrandizement to Obama and Biden taking a higher elected office. But then, there's nothing you won't justify when it comes to Palin. Why? Are you Todd?
- 2 votes
I guarantee she will serve her two full presidential when elected in 2012.
LOL
I'm so convinced she is electoral poison that I'll go door to door as a Democrat to get her on the GOP ballot. The Reagan Victory over Mondale will look like a close race after ANY Democrat gets done with her...
Palin is toxic for America...
- 4 votes
The cost to Alaska of Palin resigning.
The preliminary figures obtained by The Associated Press through a public records request show it cost the state almost $14,100 for the swearing-in ceremony of new Gov. Sean Parnell in Fairbanks on July 26 after Palin formally stepped down the same day before a massive crowd in the interior city. The price tag for moving Palin -- the former GOP vice presidential candidate -- and her family from the governor's mansion in Juneau amounted to more than $3,328. Travel costs for the governor's office associated with the transition totaled more than $6,700.
Not included in the tally is the estimated cost of more than $100,000 for a one-day special session held last month in which state lawmakers confirmed Palin's surprise pick to replace Parnell as lieutenant governor and overrode her May 21 veto of $28.6 million in federal stimulus funds intended for energy efficiency projects.
Other transition costs disclosed to the AP are $4,626 in assorted expenditures by the governor's office such as official photos of the new governor and lieutenant governor, letterhead and business cards. The state Department of Labor estimates expenditures of $9,082 for new letterhead, brochures and forms while the Department of Administration projects spending more than $1,600 on new letterhead.
A bit more than $100. And wasteful for a state in financial troubles. But anything for Palin's ego!
- 3 votes
TJG You disappoint me. You are better than that. I have repeatedly said \I did not and would not vote for her. That I don't think she would be a good president. But I am not petty enough to attack her for doing something 99,999% of Americans would jump at the chance to do, make $20 million dollars in one year. I also criticize Obama but for important things. I would never stoop to calling him a Muslim.
- 2 votes
That was optional, All the stat was required to do was have a judge swear her in -free- and change a few signs and stationary. They chose to spend more.
Again, this is a non issue. Illinois and the US spent much more to replace Obama in the senate. If politicians choose tr\o spend much more than required for an ego, blame them.
- 2 votes
I'd think 99% of Americans aren't quitters. Palin is and that is not a positive attribute.
That Alaska incurred any expense when Palin stepped down is a penny too much. I thought you conservatives were all about reigning in expenses--unless it involves defending Palin, eh, Red?
- 2 votes
Quitting itself is not bad It depends on why. Obama is quitting Iraq, my brother quit smoking, people quit jobs every day. Athletes quit in the middle of contracts. Michael Jordon quit twice.
I have repeatedly said \I did not and would not vote for her. That I don't think she would be a good president.
Illinois and the US spent much more to replace Obama.
I am 50% with you. You are strongly anti republican. So am I. I am strongly anti democrat. You are not. I will oppose Obama when he is wrong while you defend him but I will join you in opposing Palin when she is wrong.
- 2 votes
That is why Bill Clinton left us with a surplus. Real men choose their wives beyond beauty, they like brains, competition, strength, confidence, a strong woman leading them to achieve a mapped out success plan. Don't get me wrong Hilary is beautiful.
I would pay lots of money to see Hillary and Sarah debate. And I'd guess that Sarah would wind up in tears as her talking points wouldn't go far against a smart woman with a vast knowledge of world and American politics and affairs.
- 29 votes
I would pay lots of money to see Hillary and Sarah debate.
Even if I hated broccoli with all my heart, I would still not want to see it in a fight to the death with a ravenous vegetarian.
Palin would be eaten up alive. It would be akin to an intellectual execution, live on the air. Well, except in Palin's case, you can't execute what she does not have.
- 26 votes
Palin would be eaten up alive. It would be akin to an intellectual execution...
And the sad (or really funny) part is that Palin wouldn't have a clue. Palin would still think she won. Any criticism of her would be attributed to the media.
- 22 votes
trm2008Palin would still think she won. Any criticism of her would be attributed to the media.
trm, is right on, with her comment. Palin and her staff, would try like hell to get her out of any debate in the first place, because even they know it would be Little Big Horn, all over again. The Red media, and the talking heads, and every republican would be a gas on how bad Palin beat Clinton, Not only that but, 500,000 showed up, for the debates, and all were Palin supporters.
- 12 votes
Palin will one day fall and when she does it will be hard and ugly. It happens to the majority of people who's "star" burns too bright.
People love to build people up just to knock them down.
It is too bad she is too afraid to enter any real debate, face criticism, or defend her positions. Hiding like a teenager behind Twitter is so pathetic.
- 14 votes
With Palin as both kingmaker and media-savvy talk show phenomenon now making oodles of cash, at this point the stars do not point towards her as a serious nominee. But to slough off the threat, blithely say that "Palin would be eaten alive", is to forget how distorted American politics has become of late.
A drubbing in a debate (and you know her side would agree to as few as rationally possible), would indeed be characterized as a left-wing media conspiracy, with unfair and slanted questions by the panel. Her supporters would have myopia; get Mama Bear elected and to hell with everyone else.
I feel she is a real and present threat; we need to be worried.
- 4 votes
Nah, "her people" are the kind to get easily offended and kick you to the curb when you are not "pure" enough. Eventually she will say something that pisses them off enough to go after her. They do love to eat their own. LOL
She poses no threat because there are not enough people that would vote for her even if she did manage to keep her "stardom".
If she ran she would have to come out of hiding and the second she did she'd fall flat on her face.
- 9 votes
demmy - If she would go into debates and act as she has so far, I don't believe all of her fans would stay on. Some would do as you say, but I give the majority more credit than that; I think they would gradually realize that she's empty, and gradually melt away by quietly moving on to someone or something else.
- 5 votes
Yes, if she truly says something asinine some of her supporters would go, but as long as her handlers have her as the victim in this war of words between an over-thinking, ivory tower liberal and an attractive and down-home, two year college girl- I believe they will happily stay on and even grow. It also doesn't help that the (liberal, wildly left) press is absolutely fascinated with her at the moment. They are enthralled that whomever she blesses gets elected. I saw some video this morning where the press was looking upon her as some divine creature- it's sickening.
- 3 votes
But remember her "debate" with Biden. She flat out stated that she wasn't goinging to answer any questions she didn't want to and pretty much just used it as a platform to recite talking points.
I don't think Sarah Palin would even agree to an actual "debate" with Hillary Clinton. It would be another fake debate where she can basically spout off uncontested. Remember that here fans *still* think she "won" the debate she had with Joe Biden.
- 8 votes
I agree with Eris that Palin will fall. I believe her demise will be at the hands of the Republican men who want the nomination. She will never have to face a Democrat in a presidential debate because the men will send the little woman back to the kitchen where she belongs.
- 5 votes
I agree, TJG - The debates would be priceless. I think Sarah would have notes up to her armpits!
- 8 votes
"and affairs"...
agreed Jones Girl...hands down Hilliary has more experience when it comes to politicians affairs....;)
rotflol...
- 2 votes
I think Sarah would have notes up to her armpits!
Her arms too short to box with Hillary.
- 9 votes
Damn Chasin.....I can't stop the mental picture and snickering! Good one!
- 1 vote
Maybe we could get Ed McMann to host this on pay-per-view and proceeds go towards national debt.
- 3 votes
I am very disappointed- I see all these comments about what happened in the past without regard for her disturbing successes of the present. Wake up liberals! This woman is a real threat...start thinking of her that way so she can be defeated if this nightmare comes to pass.
- 1 vote
All that can be said to that is certainly not the American people. That would be one of the most horrific things that could be wished on our society. As neither is a midddle of the road party representative, neither has any common sense when it comes to what the will of the people is.
- 3 votes
Clinton is moderate. Palin is a rightwing whacko with no clue.
- 15 votes
If Clinton is a moderate I am miss America. And let me tell you I am far from that. Clinton is the same as any other politician. they dont care about the will of the people, only the democrats. And party politics is the biggest thing that is wrong with our country today.
- 5 votes
Oh, well, gee, what a shock, a Democratic politician cares about the Democratic party!
Clinton is a moderate. Problem is, many are so far to the right that they cannot see this.
When will you take Palin, Beck, etc. to task for their "partisan politics?" I see them playing partisan games more than I see Clinton doing so, but then, Clinton has a real, serious job to do, unlike the GOP jokesters.
- 12 votes
Freedom Writer-801740
If Clinton is a moderate I am miss America
Describe her extremist positions for us, please.
- 8 votes
If you have a problem considering Hilary Clinton as a moderate, just compare her to Dennis Kucinich or Bernie Sanders.
- 6 votes
If Clinton is a moderate I am miss America
Loved you in the swimsuit competition Freedom Writer.
- 11 votes
Freedom Writer has just shown us exactly how the Republicans would conduct the 2012 campaign: by describing the opposing candidate as something she or he obviously is not, facts be damned, and then repeating the Big Lie until people get so used to hearing it that they start to mistake it for the truth. They've used it against Obama, and also against Hillary, as you may recall from the '08 primaries. They'll use it again.
Maximilio, I'll tell you what her extremist positions are: she's a Democrat who thinks that a Democrat can be President, and she's a woman who dares to think she's as smart and capable as a man. Oh, the horror.
- 16 votes
If Clinton is a moderate I am miss America. And let me tell you I am far from that. Clinton is the same as any other politician
Really? Because I can't name any Democrat more business-friendly than the Clintons. Sounds pretty moderate to me....
- 6 votes
Andrew, I thought Freedom writer was gorgeous in that formal gown but blew it when asked the character question. Even Miss Philippines answer was better.
- 6 votes
And her talent display of being able to raspberry to the National Anthem was choice.
- 4 votes
Whatever, i can see by your postings that you guys obviously are blinded by party politics also. The bottom line is if it came down to that fiasco no one would win, especially the American people.
- 1 vote
I'm independent. Exactly what party blinds me? I think radicals on both sides are nuts.
- 2 votes
I'm independent. Exactly what party blinds me? I think radicals on both sides are nuts.
If it didn't apply to you then I apologize. But it seems many people are too blinded by whatever party they want to be affiliated to realize the disastrous situations that we get ourselves in because we have no real people that can represent the everyday person, and just want to elect dem/reb no matter what their platforms are.
- 1 vote
I'm not blinded by party ideology - I've studied Political Science in College and know what the terms mean. Clinton is not a liberal. She is a moderate, middle of the road kind of candidate - just like her husband. The US is incapable of electing a true liberal. I've supported Kucinich for president for years now. THAT's a liberal.
- 1 vote
You must remember, the country voted in carter and Obama, they would vote in any one.
Until now, I would have said they would vote anybody in except a woman. I'm almost convinced it will HAVE to be a woman next time. It seems this election was about proving something to the rest of the world. I wouldn't be surprised if we have more to prove.
Whatever, i can see by your postings that you guys obviously are blinded by party politics also.
You never answered my fvcking question. You've retreated to vague generalizations and empty rhetoric. WHO exactly is operating on the basis of blind partisanship?
- 2 votes
Certainly not me, as you can tell by my postings I have much disdain for both parties.
- 1 vote
Agreed that Hillary may win that one. The good side is at least we get rid of Obama.
Hillary vs. Romney would be another story.
- 1 vote
#4 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 9:19 AM EDTHillary would destroy Romney in a debate, he's another one with nothing but talking points and one-liners, he would look clueless.
- 10 votes
Hilllary vs. Romney would be another story.
Indeed. That story would be "Hillary beats Romney" instead of "Hillary beats Palin."
- 11 votes
Massachusetts elected him, so it's not like he's a dud.
People fell for Obama's hope and change rather than the well-spoken expert debate of Hillary. Lots of style there, now they are paying for the substance.
I think 2010 and 2012 will be more about substance over style. Style is too costly.
- 1 vote
Massachusetts elected him, so it's not like he's a dud.
A fair point, but Massachusetts elected him when he was a Liberal Republican. He got more conservative when he decided to run for national office.
- 6 votes
Hillary would destroy Romney in a debate, he's another one with nothing but talking points and one-liners, he would look clueless.
Are you kidding? They'd BOTH be backpedaling from stupid overreaches in a vain attempt to make themselves look like they're "for the people". It would be as bad as the Senate race we have going on here in IL.....both Kirk and Giannoulias are idiots and we're screwed either way!
- 1 vote
Hilliray Clinton is well known, she was the first lady for 8 years, been Senator of New York, and now is the Secretary of State, under Barack Obama. Sarah Palin is a quitter, she couldn't remain as Governor until the end of her term.
I have never heard of Hillary Clinton being under investigation for any reason, Sarah Palin has been under investigation, for one reason or another.
Having them as the choices in 2012, I would pick Hillary Clinton, for her experience over Sarah Palin inexperience. Why elect a quitter? Hillary Clinton has left a paper trail in what she has done as First Lady, as a Senator, and now as the Secretary of State. What paper trail has Sarah Palin left, so others can judge her on what she has accomplished as a short term governor.
- 7 votes
#6 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 9:31 AM EDT"I have never heard of Hillary Clinton being under investigation for any reason"
may I suggest a little research?
On January 26, 1996, Hillary Clinton was forced to testify before a grand jury concerning her investments in Whitewater. This was the first time in American history that a First Lady had been subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury. She testified that they never borrowed any money from the bank, and denied having caused anyone to borrow money on their behalf. Over the course of the investigation, fifteen individuals — including Clinton friends Jim and Susan McDougal, White House counsel Webster Hubbell and Arkansas Governor Jim Guy Tucker — were convicted of federal charges. Except for Jim McDougal, none of them agreed to cooperate with the Whitewater investigators, and Clinton pardoned four of them in the final hours of his presidency (see list of people pardoned by Bill Clinton).
But if I had to absolutely choose between Clinton or Palin..I would vote for Clinton.
"Sarah Palin is a quitter, she couldn't remain as Governor until the end of her term."
I have never heard of Hillary Clinton being under investigation for any reason, Sarah Palin has been under investigation, for one reason or another.
I guess it would take a sledge hammer to pound in the point that Palin quit as governor because of all those investigations. They were all bogus, and most were submitted by one person. She and her staff were having to spend so much time defending against all the garbage, she could not adequately do her job. It was costing the state of Alaska and the Palins a lot of money to defend against a bunch of ignorant knot heads just out to get her. It made perfect sense for her to resign so the state could stop spending money and resources, as well as all the money she spent.
Some people either just can not grasp the notion that it was the ethical thing to do, or they simply choose to use it as a talking point, thinking no one out there knows them be ignorant of the facts, or lying for political reasons.
Sarah in a landslide.
#8 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 9:36 AM EDTBased on what, Ted? Her favorability ratings are down there with Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, and Chlamydia. 24% of the public approves of her. News story dated APRIL 2010. This is after 2 years of shameless self-promotion.
- 10 votes
Palin, "Do ya mind if I call ya, Hillary?" (wink, facial tic, snort)
Clinton, "No, you may call me Secretary Clinton, you little punk assed biaaatch!"
- 11 votes
#9 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 9:42 AM EDTOr, like Sydney Poitier in In the Heat of the Night, "They call me MRS. CLINTON!"
- 3 votes
A Hillary vs Sarah contest would be very, very close. Sarah deserves to win if for no other reason than the current Secretary of State actually referred the State of Arizona to the UN human rights commission for investigation.
On the downside, Sarah certainly does not have the polished education of a Hillary or an Obama. On the upside, Sarah has the same IQ as Obama and she has the immense benefit of never having attended wine and cheese left wing parties with Marxist professors and former terrorists turned professor.
- 1 vote
#11 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 10:03 AM EDTHow about attending beer and bear-burger right-wing parties and palling around with separatists? Does that count?
- 7 votes
Proof that Palin has the same IQ as Obama?
I think Palin's shoe size is bigger than her IQ.
And Clinton did the correct thing in referring AZ to the UN Human Rights Commission. That's what happens when you go against human rights.
- 5 votes
That's what happens when you go against human rights.
Um....I think Palin is an idiot....but please expand on your belief that AZ violated human rights
The AZ law has not violated any human rights, only a portion of it passed the court. It's important to have your facts strait.
On the upside, Sarah has the same IQ as Obama
I lol'd up and down the street about this one.
- 2 votes
If it makes you liberals feel better, Sarah Palin will never run for public office again. Ya'll are obsessed with the woman. Move on, you've got control of both houses for a little while longer.
- 1 vote
#13 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 10:15 AM EDTIts not just Liberals that are obsessed with Mrs. Palin. Why just this past weekend half a couple hundred thousand people went to see her speak at the National mall in Washington.
- 4 votes
Hillary Clinton vs. Sarah Palin 2012: Can You Imagine Who Would Win That One?
Win? Did you say win?
IF this were to happen (and it won't) Hillary would take Sarah's lunch and rub it in her face! Palin will never run for president if she's smart and again that too is a big IF!.
First, Palin would be mauled by the likes of Spewt Gingrich and Mitt Romney who would rip her eyeballs out on issues after issue - from from sea to shining sea in debate after debate!
She couldn't possibly manage to run a nationwide campaign AND stay on point - she's just NOT that smart.
However, IF she were actually in a debate with Hillary I would expect that at some point Palin would get so frustrated with Hillary rolling her eyes that Palin would run across the stage and grab Hillary by the hair and that Jim Lehrer dude from The Newshour would be screaming "Miss Palin your time is up. Governor Palin please - the red light is blinking, please limit your comments to 3 minutes and please stop yanking on The Secretary of States hair....security!"...
- 6 votes
#16 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 10:44 AM EDTI would gladly welcome either Clinton back into the white house. Hillary has more brains in her thumb than Palin. Palin is pretty and spiffy, but not presidential material. Hillary has experience, brains and Bill (he at least balanced our budget). I don't care who he takes to bed, that is his and her business.) Bill is a great president and Hillary would be great also.
- 8 votes
#17 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 11:10 AM EDTIt's time some people did a little research instead of just picking up other peoples talking points, this link will get you started.
Obviously you are asking who would look better first thing in the morning without make up.
#18 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 11:11 AM EDTHillary ANY day! Palin tweets because it's a safe way to "spout off" without ever having to answer to anyone who disagrees with her. I haven't always been a Hillary fan...but compared to Sarah Palin she's a genius.
- 3 votes
#19 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 11:24 AM EDTYup. If Palin can't handle open questioning, how on earth would she deal with Iran or North Korea?
- 4 votes
Awesome seed, Soph! I've always thought that Palin has gotten where she is on Clinton's coattails. If the country can have Clinton, there would be no need for Palin. Wonder what Sister Sarah would do then... there's always snake oil to be sold!
- 4 votes
#21 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 11:28 AM EDTHillary Clinton vs. Sarah Palin 2012: Can You Imagine Who Would Win That One?
Since the Democrats want to be Sharia Compliant...the Democrat men could not vote for a woman and each woman's vote would count for 1/2...therefore since Hillary could not get the the nomination over a community organizer. How does Hillary expect to compate with such a popular figure as Sarah Palin...say if she were running for office...on the other hand Hillary Clinton is probably going the way of Howard Dean...always remembered for " It takes a village" and that is about it
#26 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 12:15 PM EDTYou must have drooled onto your keyboard a little more this morning, or you actually believe that crap your peddaling.
I wonder if you know about Female Heads of State from Muslim Countries, Benazi Bhutto, Khaleda Zia (first female Prime Minister of Bangladesh, 1991-1996), and Sheikh Hasina Wajed (current Prime Minister of Bangladesh)
Palin is popular only in the gutter the extreme right congregate under
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Your Party is the one that wants to be Sharia compliant...but you cant believe that this could come to fruition, that the Democrat would let a women who has been a First Lady and Senator get the Presidential nomination over a ....err...lets say ...a "community organizer"...the assumption that there would be a Palin v Clinton matchup would be based on that Obama would not be re-elected or re-nominated for President...which then would imply that even Democrats do not like the way this administration is running this country...if the country is soured on Obama...then they will be soured on Democrats...and Hillary's election would suffer.....best case scenario is the Bill Clinton version....screw up bad enough to lose control of House and Senate and when the country starts succeeding again because of republicans.....claim victory and get 4 more years
and Yes I know about Benazir Bhutto
Jerryb12
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Comment collapsed by the communityCan we throw Alveeda King into the mix too...then they can all just mud wrestle for the right to win a nomination!
And then we can shove Michelle Bachmann and Laura Ingraham into the pit as well..I'd pay to see that!
But seriously, I highly doubt Palin will run...she would be eaten alive by the likes of Gingrich & Romney before Hillary ever got a shot at her - her grasp of the issues is limited to Tweeting and refudiating!
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#32 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 1:37 PM EDTI think any potential presidential election between the intelligent Hillary Clinton and the brainless, worthless, fascist, half-governor Sarah Palin would occur in 2016, not 2012 because Obama will be reelected. Don't forget that Clinton would have won if Obama did not run for office. It was a close choice though. The first Female president or the first African-American president. I would hope that Clinton completely destroys Palin in a debate. Our president must include the most intelligent people that will work for the best interest of the people.
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#33 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 1:41 PM EDTWhen can we plan on Obama doing that - including intelligent people that work for the best interest of the people?
Obama is a good president. I would not know what to do with appointing people to cabinet positions if I was president. I don't think you will find very many people that work for the interest of the people anymore.
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Polka I agree, why would anybody start such a thread ? Perhaps an inferiority complex ? Hypothetical political conjecture with so many other important social issues brings me back to my summary judgement.
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"not 2012 because Obama will be reelected."
Polka14, you must not read the News much, as Obama is on the verge of the people of the United States calling for his impeachment !
The polls (all of them) have shown that over half of American people think he is the worst President ever.
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as Obama is on the verge of the people of the United States calling for his impeachment !
The polls (all of them) have shown that over half of American people think he is the worst President ever.
Links? Proof?
The truth that the GOP doesn't want to face is that Obama's ratings are higher than Reagan's or Clinton's at this point in their first terms and they were handily re-elected.
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Polka14, you must not read the News much, as Obama is on the verge of the people of the United States calling for his impeachment !
The polls (all of them) have shown that over half of American people think he is the worst President ever.
Obama will not be impeached. He has done nothing wrong except upset the vast racist movement in this nation. Many people that say Obama is the worst president because they are upset that G.W. Bush was the worst.
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The Jones Girl, well I won't waste a lot of time on this to prove to you what is in the News papers almost daily but here ya go, From a Newsvine article;
Live Poll
Is President Obama, The Worst President Ever ?
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ArizonaBill - i just googled is obama the worst president ever poll - and the only poll I got was the one that you linked....not exactly evidence - sorry
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Soph,,,maybe you should learn to Google better.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001629-503544.html
http://www.gallup.com/poll/126809/obama-approval-rating-lowest-yet-congress-declines.aspx
But I was only speaking of what the poll showed and what the People felt. Actually Bush had the lowest rating of any Preisdent in 70 years.
"Bush's disapproval rating worst of any president in 70 years"
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20080422/a_pollbox22.art.htm
But all this is Off Topic to your article so let's save it for another day.
But all this is Off Topic to your article so let's save it for another day.
Fair enough:-)
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Live polls aren't evidence of much as they can be easily manipulated and have no real methodology. Weak.
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Polka14, you must not read the News much, as Obama is on the verge of the people of the United States calling for his impeachment !
Too bad those people have no idea how the impeachment process goes.
Did you say the same thing about Reagan when his numbers were low?
Well that would make it easy for all the liberals...
You're a sexist for not voting for Clinton. (take out racist and Obama)
Some people just can't stand a woman in the white house. (take out Black person)
#34 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:48 PM EDTHistorical Fact everyone that has every picked a Female for a running mate has went on to lose the election. Ok now Don't kill the messenger it's just a Fact.
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Well that would make it easy for all the liberals...
1] Palin is a woman too.
2] Palin's camp was crying sexism at every turn.
Sarah (the fox) beats old Hilliary hands down !
But if I had to pick between Hilliary and Obama, I'll take Hilliary any day !
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#35 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:51 PM EDTObama, is a 4 year (maybe less) wonder and then he is gone. The next President will spend half his time in Office just trying to undo and fix every thing Obama was done to hurt this Country.
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#36 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:57 PM EDTSounds like exactly what Obama has been doing. Fixing what Bush effed up!
What has Obama done to hurt this country?
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"What has Obama done to hurt this country?"
You mean beside getting elected?
Calm down...I was just joking...after all this is not a serious seed just a little political humor...
I think one would have to be a new kind of seriously stupid to even consider these two has beens as serious political candidates.
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It's America apparently anybody can be a serious candidate.
Hell, Glenn Beck may run for president so he can Restore More Honor and Sell More Gold!
Oh wait that's it....god tell's Palin to run and she picks Beck for veep and then he says god told him to fire Palin and pick Hillary as his veep!
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so very true TheyreAllCrooks...personally I am nominating "Uga"(The GA Bulldogs Mascot)...at least when he pisses on my leg, he can't try and tell me it is raining;)
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"Uga", Hillary, what's the diff?
Gotta admit that Palin does have that MILFish quality that make guys like her...but she's a never ending train wreck between the ears!
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