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Alaska Gov. Parnell's Nominee Believes Sex Outside Of Marriage Should Be Illegal

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Gov. Sean Parnell's (R-AK) nominee to the Alaska Judicial Council says he won't "let his personal beliefs influence which candidates he'd approve for judgeships," but given Don Haase's extreme position that sex outside of marriage should be illegal, his assurances may fall on deaf ears. Parnell says he appointed Haase to the Council — which vets applicants for district, superior, and appellate courts and submits the names to the governor — to fulfill a constitutional requirement of "area representation." Haase ssured lawmakers that imposing his views on marriage through the council would be "inconvenient."

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From the hearing:

SEN. JOE PASKVAN (D): Do you believe it should be a crime?

HAASE: Yeah, I think it’s very harmful to have extramarital affairs. It’s harmful to children, it’s harmful to the spouse who entered a legally binding agreement to marry the person that’s cheating on them.

PASKVAN: What about premarital affairs — should that be a crime?

HAASE: I think that would be up to the voters certainly. If it came before (the state) as a vote, I probably would vote for it … I can see where it would be a matter for the state to be involved with because of the spread of disease and the likelihood that it would cause violence. I can see legitimate reasons to push that as a crime.

  • 30 votes
#1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:13 AM EDT
Agent 57

I can see legitimate reasons to push that as a crime.

wow... unbelievable what these folk think...

  • 45 votes
#1.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:46 AM EDT
Janeinthisworld

Interestingly enough, he doesn't provide even one "legitimate reason".

And honestly, who would vote for such a law?

  • 40 votes
#1.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:01 PM EDT
hvymtl83

WOW! And they have the nerve to criticise the Taliban as regressive. I betcha his idea for penalty is stoning.

  • 54 votes
#1.3 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:07 PM EDT
gillanator

Well.....there goes half of the GOP.

  • 37 votes
#1.4 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:24 PM EDT
Gordon H

The more I read about these extremist conservatives, the more I think they're trying to turn this country into a theocracy, regardless of what the Constitution forbids. It is time to re-assess our current "war on terror" and start funneling resources into fighting these domestic terrorists right here at home. No, I'm not exaggerating when I use the word "terrorists" to describe these religious zealots because that is precisely what they are. Dangerous elements within a society that threatens the basic rights of the citizen (especially those that disagree with their views or beliefs) by use of fear, intimidation and prejudice.

  • 41 votes
#1.5 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:26 PM EDT
Arlene Tognetti

And Gov Parnell was handpicked by Gov Palin

before she went AWOL!

The nut doesn't fall too far from the tree, I say!

What would we expect from the Alaskan Governing Body? hummm? smile

  • 33 votes
#1.6 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:36 PM EDT
Davy-755715

Should extramarital affairs be illegal? Nope. Should they be elevated to the status of normal or acceptable? Nope.

  • 15 votes
#1.7 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:40 PM EDT
GaryColumbus

Another Alaskan Republican doozy eh? Somebody needs to help them thar Alaskan officials keep their heads out of the snow. The ice is shattering their brains when it melts.

  • 20 votes
#1.8 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:44 PM EDT
landspirit

Ouch, men be careful what you wish for. You might get it- no sex without marriage means for the Republican men with their brains floating in the hefty clouds of their minds: no sex with out marriage including you. I can just see the young Republican male in his 20's making advances on his girlfriend or slowing down his car for a prostitute with his gonads bursting in sexual repression. The young lady turns and says, "Remember, Robbie. It was your daddy that made sex before marriage illegal. I'm not going to jail for this. Zip up the trousers." Or how about all those Republican leaders caught in the midst of extramarital affairs? They would be in jail... Well I say lets have sex without marriage a crime until we have nabbed all the Republicans who cheat, then we can change the law back again. That is always a good way to get rid of a Republican- make them the victims of their own laws.

  • 28 votes
#1.9 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:48 PM EDT
Andrew-1162039

Since gay marriage in Alaska is illegal outlawing extra-marrital sex would effectively outlaw homosexuality, something the Supreme Court has already settled as unconstitutional.

Frankly even among heterosexuals the whole idea of outlawing sexual acts involves an unconstitutional invasion of privacy via Lawrenve v. Texas.

  • 26 votes
#1.10 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:04 PM EDT
DisplayName0

I especially like, well actually dislike, Haase's comment that premarital sex could lead to violence. Okay, so lets make anything that has ever caused someone to harm another illegal to have. He probably make an exception for guns though.

  • 23 votes
#1.11 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:05 PM EDT
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wow... unbelievable what these folk think...

Yes who in the right mind would think that extra marital affairs is wrong...any one who cheats on their spouse should be honored...right this diot says that cheating is not good for the children...but you lefties know that the children love this...in fact if a child does not come from a broken home...you have to ask what is wrong with this picture?

I am suprised that lefty hasnt come up with this idea as a way to promote Obamacare...to prevent the spread of sexually tramitted diseases...because if people cannot see a doctor ... because they could not get healthcare...or maybe...

lefty just would see his voter base get locked up if it was a crime

    #1.12 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:14 PM EDT
    swagg

    I thought the republicans were for less government intrusion in everyday people lives. This guy would be taking a serious golden shower on republican ideology.

    • 30 votes
    #1.13 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:20 PM EDT
    Agent 57

    wow... unbelievable what these folk think...

    Yes who in the right mind would think that extra marital affairs is wrong

    stop trying to legislate morality between consenting adults...

    I thought the republicans were for less government intrusion in everyday people lives

    except for when they're for it.. which is most of the time...

    • 35 votes
    #1.14 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:25 PM EDT
    disgusted independant

    Apparently he wants to arrest the Palin family.

    Republicans are not the party of smaller government, the are the party of micro-management.

    • 33 votes
    #1.15 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:31 PM EDT
    Janeinthisworld

    lefty just would see his voter base get locked up if it was a crime

    Really? Seriously?

    Who knew Newt Gingrich was a lefty? I sure didn't. Or is it ok for him because he loves his country so much?

    • 29 votes
    #1.16 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:40 PM EDT
    PublicServant63

    Sha' TEA'ah law... the new radical right doctrine for the United States.. Once again... unless you want my busting up in your church with my governmennt in tow... keep your f'ing church outta my government...

    Life is good.

    • 26 votes
    #1.17 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:40 PM EDT
    redphish

    Yes who in the right mind would think that extra marital affairs is wrong...any one who cheats on their spouse should be honored...

    I can't recall any rational person on the right or the left who thinks extra marital affairs are positive and should be honored. Besides, this guy is talking about any sex outside of a legal marriage.

    I am suprised that lefty hasnt come up with this idea as a way to promote Obamacare...

    That would be as irrational as what this moron is proposing so I'm not surprised someone like you would come up with such an absurd notion.

    • 19 votes
    #1.18 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:42 PM EDT
    DisplayName0

    Janeinthisworld,

    Didn't Newt basically say his service to our country actually caused his infidelity? Rather than something something less ballsy and probably a tad more honest like "I loved serving my country and, at the same time, someone other than my wife."

    • 20 votes
    #1.19 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:51 PM EDT
    gillanator

    Yes who in the right mind would think that extra marital affairs is wrong

    That would also cover premarital sex too. It says sex outside of marriage. That means if you have two people who could be divorced and they would be breaking the law. Two people who are engaged and they would be breaking the law. This will never stand it just shows how extreme the right has become. It is going to be great when the right wing becomes extinct.

    Who posted this garbage? Valspully big surprise there.

    • 19 votes
    #1.20 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:51 PM EDT
    redneck7-2262457

    I am all for extra marrital sex hell that just means the wife and i have more fun in the bed room lol Just kidding.

    On a serious note though i personally believe that it is wrong. However, people should have the freedom to decide for themselves. If you cant trust the person to be faithful to you then plain and simple don't marry them......DUH!

    • 10 votes
    #1.21 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:53 PM EDT
    gillanator

    Isn't it funny that the righteous wingers say that Obama is infringing on their freedoms by forcing Obamacare on them but yet they want to tell a person what they can do in their own bedroom? Don't these people get confused about which side of their mouths they are talking out of?

    • 24 votes
    #1.22 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:00 PM EDT
    Rixar13

    Don Haase’s extreme position that sex outside of marriage should be illegal, his assurances may fall on deaf ears.

    Sounds Extreme to me.... smile :-)

    • 7 votes
    #1.23 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:00 PM EDT
    Agent 57

    Don't these people get confused about which side of their mouths they are talking out of?

    many appear to talk out of both sides at once....

    • 12 votes
    #1.24 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:02 PM EDT
    Gordon H

    Yes who in the right mind would think that extra marital affairs is wrong...any one who cheats on their spouse should be honored...right this diot says that cheating is not good for the children...but you lefties know that the children love this...in fact if a child does not come from a broken home...you have to ask what is wrong with this picture?

    Typical conservative deflection tactic. Did anyone say that extramarital affairs isn't wrong? The question here isn't whether it is wrong but rather should it be a crime. Don't even attempt to bring Christian moral codes into our laws because not everyone is Christian (and proud of it).

    Now what about the issue of making premarital sex a crime, a point which you did not address? By using Haase's logic, R rated movies/TV/cable programs, many video games, alcohol, certain perscription drugs, public demonstrations, social cliques, domestic arguments, or even mental illness should also be completely outlawed. After all, anecdotal evidence may suggest that all those things *could* contribute to some form of harmful behavior, including violence. Care to defend those twisted lines of reasoning? Oh wait, some GOP politicians have already tried to pass laws against some of those things. My mistake.

    If you think that there is any merit to Haase's logic, perhaps you should turn your attention to outlawing firearms first. Of course I highly doubt that you conservatives would go along with that idea since it is inconvenient to your ideology. Oh noes, guns don't contribute to violence at all but extramarital/premarital sex does. Hypocrisy.

    • 19 votes
    #1.25 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:11 PM EDT
    gillanator

    Right wingers go crazy in opposition of Sharia Law, and then try to impose their own version of it.

    • 22 votes
    #1.26 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:14 PM EDT
    newvinedebate

    But the REPUBS are for small government that stays outta peoples live. PFFFFT!

    • 13 votes
    #1.27 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:23 PM EDT
    Jim watkins-441964

    It seems the Alaskan voters are seriously stupid. They elected two idiot governors in a row. How can we get them to cecede?

    • 14 votes
    #1.28 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:41 PM EDT
    common sense-457836

    This guy would be taking a serious golden shower on republican ideology.

    I think it's called 'trickle-down morality'.

    • 18 votes
    #1.29 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:17 PM EDT
    paul kennedy

    It seems that there are 114 men to every 100 women in Alaska. They had better outlaw homosexuality too. Hey! Did you see the way that moose was looking at me? They really do have lovely big brown eyes.

    • 13 votes
    #1.30 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:18 PM EDT
    paul kennedy

    Oh. About that idiot governor thing -- it's called inbreeding.

    • 14 votes
    #1.31 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:20 PM EDT
    Justice?

    This could be resolved so easily. Marriage should be illegal. It is the only contract where neither are legally bound to their end of it. It is a joke bestowed upon the general population by religion. Get rid of it and we could get rid of so much government interference with the personal lives of people. But alas, it is necessary for a socialized society. It is a way to take from one and give to another without needing to abide by that whole constitutionality thing.

    Be smart...don't get married. If we could outlaw marriage as the con-game it is, then this governor would be forced to figure out some other way to control people's personal lives. We can outlaw sweepstakes in certain states, gambling, and prostitution...but when it comes to biggest gamble of one's life, which amounts to nothing more than legal prostitution, and about the same odds of success as a sweepstakes, you are expected to buy into it. Hmmmm....

    • 6 votes
    #1.32 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:28 PM EDT
    FLYNAVY1

    Is it possible to have a brain get frostbite? Might explain things......

    • 8 votes
    #1.33 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:15 PM EDT
    TennisMom2

    Valpully:

    but you lefties know that the children love this...in fact if a child does not come from a broken home...you have to ask what is wrong with this picture?

    What is wrong with the picture is the idea that people would get arrested for this.

    I can't add to the comments above so will take a different tack. How does one enforce a law like this? Squads of Peeping Toms? Sex-sniffing dogs? Condom-cams? What would the punishment be, the man AND woman both wearing a Scarlet Letter A? How about being put in the stocks in the center of town? How about imposing a fine? Let's say, ten bucks for each extra-marital boink. Who does the investigating? How?

    A law outlawing extra-marital sex will have as much success as do many of our drug laws. We already have a war on drugs which is a failure. So now we need a war on sex?

    C'mon, already.

    • 16 votes
    #1.34 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:19 PM EDT
    knight-403465

    Republicans are extremists.

    • 13 votes
    #1.35 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:21 PM EDT
    CynicL1

    Jaysus what is it about Conservatives that they have to stick their bloody noses in other peoples bedrooms? they make my fricking head hurt.

    • 14 votes
    #1.36 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:48 PM EDT
    Kreepy-Krawler

    This is bs. Most of the politicians would be in jail if this were law. What I or others do in our bedrooms is ourown business and no one else's.

    This is just aother way to make money off the people like they are trying to pass charging the people a tax on every mile they drive in their car.

    Government crooks and thieves once looking at another way to rob the people of their money and their freedoms.

    TAX the effen churches and religions that promote and cover up all their pedophilia if you want more money.

    • 7 votes
    #1.37 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:56 PM EDT
    edward j-1337034

    conservatives aren't getting enough, that's why they want to @!$%# everything else, ie unions economy etc,

    • 11 votes
    #1.38 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:07 PM EDT
    paul kennedy

    Let's be fair. I think even most Republicans would say that the idea of criminalizing premarital sex is idiotic -- unless they're up for reelection.

    • 7 votes
    #1.39 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:11 PM EDT
    Ditto

    Bah, this whole story would be moot if we simply enforced the bestiality laws. That way this half horse's-ass/half man wouldn't be around to lay these road apples on everyone elses lawn.

    • 8 votes
    #1.40 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:49 PM EDT
    Hippo Potamus

    Should extramarital affairs be illegal?

    Hmmm...how many politician can we get rid of with this law...

    • 5 votes
    #1.41 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:52 PM EDT
    js-445607

    Ok so this guy thinks only married people should have sex. Who is going to know if someone has extramarital affairs and how can it be anyone's business? I would think there will be a mass exodus from Alaska if this one is bought and sold.

    • 5 votes
    #1.42 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:24 PM EDT
    Nightbreeeze

    No doubt he would also support a bill making the punishment for having sex out of wedlock death by stoning.

    Where the hell are all these dangerous, jackboot-wearing, goosestepping lunatics coming from?! All of a sudden, ever since the last election when all these 'new' GOP characters took office, I feel like our government has been overtaken with dangerous maniacs hell-bent on creating a facist state right here in the United States! Is it just me? I've always scoffed at people who made statements like this before, and now I'm the one who's starting to believe it. I am getting seriously worried here!

    • 7 votes
    #1.43 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:59 PM EDT
    landspirit

    Okay, people, get your pile of stones ready for all those Republicans caught with their pants down in the wrong house with the wrong woman (or baring the toesies to play footsies with the wrong man. Justice shall fly with the stones.

    • 6 votes
    #1.44 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:59 PM EDT
    Silvaria

    Yes who in the right mind would think that extra marital affairs is wrong...any one who cheats on their spouse should be honored...right this diot says that cheating is not good for the children...but you lefties know that the children love this...in fact if a child does not come from a broken home...you have to ask what is wrong with this picture?

    Wow, two strawman logical fallacies in one paragraph...could you please point out who said cheaters should be honored, AND, who said cheating is good for children?

    C'mon, val...you made the assertion...now pony up...show me just ONE "lefty" who said either of the above. Just one.

    *Waits and listens to the crickets*

    • 7 votes
    #1.45 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:15 PM EDT
    common sense-353470

    Christine O'Donnell was at the forefront of this GOP/Teabagger movement to criminalize sex. Remember she said that masturbation was equal to adultery..omg this means that many jobs will open up in the Masturbation Police field!

    • 6 votes
    #1.46 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:19 PM EDT
    Dennis Kemmerer

    Silvaria wrote:

    Wow, two strawman logical fallacies in one paragraph...could you please point out who said cheaters should be honored, AND, who said cheating is good for children?

    Just a technical point - one's a strawman and the other's a false dilemma, not that valpully would understand the difference.

    • 6 votes
    #1.47 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:22 PM EDT
    Leafydebater

    And I'm just going to go to my government and say "Guess what? I just had sex!"

    How does he plan to regulate this? Stick police inside college dorms and wait for the thumping?

    • 4 votes
    #1.48 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:40 PM EDT
    hard2port

    No wonder Bristol Palin moved to Arizona.

    • 4 votes
    #1.49 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:44 PM EDT
    Silvaria

    Just a technical point - one's a strawman and the other's a false dilemma, not that valpully would understand the difference.

    Heh...my bad, and touche'. 8P

    • 1 vote
    #1.50 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:35 AM EDT
    Yosho

    any one who cheats on their spouse should be honored...right this diot says that cheating is not good for the children...but you lefties know that the children love this

    Well, I guess by your generalization a certain Republican who cheated on his wife and dropped off divorce papers while she's hospitalized for cancer treatment should be switching parties instead of running as a Republican candidate in 2012.

    • 5 votes
    #1.51 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:53 AM EDT
    DisplayName0

    Yoshu,

    The circumstances were very different; I am not sure how though, god knows, but very different I do believe...ummmm, very, very different...

      #1.52 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:03 AM EDT
      cowboygrandpa

      Is it just me, or do the party of NO seem to obsessed with other peoples sex lives ??

      Must be because they are so miserable in their own.

      Yeah make everything agaist the law, then we will have to raise taxes to 100% of everyones income to pay for the prison's, the officer's, and court's ... Won't your corporate buddies just love you then ??? LOL

      Dude get your mind off of what other people do in the privacy of their own home's. What they do is between them their spouse and God, or them their sexual partner and God. It is none of our business, and frankly I don't want to try to remove the speck from their eye while you are walking around with a whole building in your's.

      I'm not God, and neither are any other's here on earth. So stop trying to play God and just live the moral life you choose and let that be an example !!!

      • 5 votes
      #1.53 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:24 AM EDT
      republicans make Sense

      Sex outside of marriage should be illegal,

      So it should be. Women need to save themselves, and keep themselves pure for their husbands. America is falling into the hands of the liberal thinkers that want to destroy the morals of the homeland. It should be illegal for a woman to have sex out of marriage to protect those morals. I have a daughter, if I found she had been messing about with another man, I would be prepared to disinherit her. America needs to move away from the free for all takers, and get back to a solid moralistic administration.

      • 1 vote
      #1.54 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:48 AM EDT
      Don't you people have jobs?

      Maybe you could stone her, or set her on fire, or cut off her nose... She's a disgrace to the family...

      That'd teach her.

      (Oh wait, it this starting to sound like Sharia law?)

      Hypocrite.

      • 5 votes
      #1.55 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:17 AM EDT
      republicans make Sense

      Don't you people have jobs?

      (Oh wait, it this starting to sound like Sharia law?)

      I said I would disinherit her. Women should be 1. Proud of their virginity and faithful to their husbands. That should be the law. Is that starting to sound like (Oh wait, it this starting to sound like Sharia law?) You have been reading too many anti American seeds on here.

        #1.56 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:24 AM EDT
        cowboygrandpa

        r m S:

        #1.56

        You would disinherit your daughter ?? Because she had sex before she was maried, or was unfaithful to her husband ?? Whatever happened to unconditional love ??

        Whatever happened to forgiveness and compassion ?? Did Jesus Christ disinherit all of us when we sinned ?? No He died for us all while we yet sinners, fogiving us and calling on us to forgive as He did.

        That is the problem with the Republican party, they think they are holy. But they have holes in their souls where their love and compassion is supposed to be.

        It is not anti American seeds it is anti Republican seeds. Big difference in case you can't tell the difference. But seeing as how you already stated it is anti American it seems as if you may not know the difference.

        The Republican Party is a bunch of legalistic, back biting, two timing, lying, propagandising, blind hypocrites who are concerned with appearances while not worrying about the people they are supposed to serve !!!

        • 7 votes
        #1.57 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:10 AM EDT
        gillanator

        You have been reading too many anti American seeds on here.

        The right wing has been talking about too many anti American legislative objectives. The right wing has become too extreme. Their extremism is going to destroy their party, hopefully they won't take the country down with them.

        • 8 votes
        #1.58 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:16 AM EDT
        Don't you people have jobs?

        Um... yeah. Sounds a lot like sharia law...

        Proud of their virginity? (what exactly has "pride" got to do with anything?) Faithful to their husbands? (what about obedient? what about subservient?)

        Just because you'd (supposedly) stop at "disowning" your daughter, (and I imagine you don't consider yourself extreme) what would keep the "hardcore" Xstians from taking it a STEP FURTHER?

        • 2 votes
        #1.59 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:29 AM EDT
        republicans make Sense

        America is being swept away by Liberal free thinking. They think everything should be free. I want to see women conforming. No sex before or beyond marriage. I don’t agree with stoning or burning. Just a short term in jail.

          #1.60 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:45 AM EDT
          Soph0571

          I want to see women conforming. No sex before or beyond marriage.

          What about men? Or do they get a get out of jail free card?

          • 8 votes
          #1.61 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:53 AM EDT
          redphish

          DFTT.

          • 5 votes
          #1.62 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:57 AM EDT
          cowboygrandpa

          #1.60

          Hey perhaps we could make them have a great big scarlet A sewed upon all of their clothes, and put them in the public stockade, where people can come by and spew their venomous remarks of vile hatred at them. Then we could talk about them as if they were the most vile people on earth. Yeah, that's the ticket.

          That would really show them the love of the "christians" who claim to know Christ, but really know His enemy the devil, and live in the way of the devil. Being an accuser and a spiteful user of God's holy name in order to perpetuate their own ideals of righteousnes.

          Run away poser. You cannot see through the darkness of your own self righteousness.

          • 7 votes
          #1.63 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:34 PM EDT
          gillanator

          America is being swept away by Liberal free thinking. They think everything should be free. I want to see women conforming. No sex before or beyond marriage. I don’t agree with stoning or burning. Just a short term in jail.

          It seems to me that America has been going the way of the conservative think for the majority of the past thirty years and look where it has led us. I would have to give the conservs a failing grade. I think we should jail people who want to impose their religious views on everyone else.

          • 7 votes
          #1.64 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:25 PM EDT
          Gordon H

          So it should be. Women need to save themselves, and keep themselves pure for their husbands. America is falling into the hands of the liberal thinkers that want to destroy the morals of the homeland. It should be illegal for a woman to have sex out of marriage to protect those morals. I have a daughter, if I found she had been messing about with another man, I would be prepared to disinherit her. America needs to move away from the free for all takers, and get back to a solid moralistic administration.

          Pardon my french but to hell with your religious sermonizing. I'm not Christian nor do I subscribe to your belief system. Last I checked, Christianity is not the official state religion of the United States thus such decrees and moralizing have no place in formulating the laws of the land. The First Amendment is quite clear on this;

          Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

          For the ignorant (meaning you), the first part is the "Establishment Clause" and the second part being the "Free Exercise Clause". You have violated both by trying to impose your religious beliefs onto others through the use of criminal prosecution. It simply amazes me that even though the Constitution was written over two centuries ago, some conservatives are still completely ignorant of its existance. Time to put down the Bible and pick up some history books.

          With that said, you are of course entitled to your beliefs but don't you dare attempt to impose your brand of religious diarrhea on me or anyone else. Contrary to what many right wing religious zealots think, I don't need to be "saved" nor do I recognize the qualification of any human being in claiming to be able to acheive such things. It is utter arrogance to think that you can "save" anyone when you have already demonstrated that your own mentality is demented beyond reason. I have a better idea. Instead of trying to impose your ideology onto others, you should crusade against your own blind ignorance and self righteousness.

          • 12 votes
          #1.65 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:05 PM EDT
          jen-793050

          Gordon H., wish I could vote you up 100 times. Well said!!!

          • 4 votes
          #1.66 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:24 PM EDT
          hard2port

          #1.55 -"Oh wait, it this starting to sound like Sharia law"

          Sharia Law, Teabag Law, same difference. Imposed by mental defectives in different parts of the world.

          • 5 votes
          #1.67 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:32 PM EDT
          Nightbreeeze

          rms,

          I have a problem believeing that anyone could possibly be as ignorant as you try to come off as (we eliminated that kind when the 3rd Reich fell).

          DNFTT folks.

          • 8 votes
          #1.68 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:50 PM EDT
          Dennis Kemmerer

          Nightbreeeze wrote:

          rms,

          I have a problem believeing that anyone could possibly be as ignorant as you try to come off as

          Even after reading all of rms's posts, I've got to believe that it's satire, because, as you say, nobody could possibly be that ignorant.

          • 6 votes
          #1.69 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:38 PM EDT
          Shannoscubie

          DNFTT

          • 3 votes
          #1.70 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:45 PM EDT
          Yosho

          So it should be. Women need to save themselves, and keep themselves pure for their husbands....It should be illegal for a woman to have sex out of marriage to protect those morals. I have a daughter, if I found she had been messing about with another man, I would be prepared to disinherit her.

          I want to see women conforming. No sex before or beyond marriage.

          1. Proud of their virginity and faithful to their husbands. That should be the law.

          3 comments focusing on women's behavior, absolutely nada said about holding men accountable for sexual activities. From what I understand of the subject, that kind of emphasis also bears some resemblance to Sharia.

          Lemme guess, Gingrich gets a free pass on his extramarital activities since he's a Repub and an "outie."

          Someone's given me the impression that they're either a guy who's a shameless misogynist willing to gloss over other guy's actions in a "boys will be boys" kind of way, or a clone of the mother from "Carrie."

          • 2 votes
          #1.71 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
          sceptical-2486196

          Newt 'did it for his country' [or his version of it].

          • 3 votes
          #1.72 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:47 PM EDT
          Reply
          Vlad's dog

          Well, there is another side to this argument, perhaps we make marriage illegal and all that sex would then be legal.

          • 30 votes
          Reply#2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:29 AM EDT
          jmom-1225464

          agreed! Then you could not make it law that one persons belongs to another, body and soul...YIKES! Hope everyone trusts the person that has that 'pull the plug' authority...sheesh.

          • 16 votes
          #2.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:37 PM EDT
          StevG-144

          I don't think his igloo, is wired right.

          • 14 votes
          #2.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:55 PM EDT
          Gordon H

          deleted

          • 3 votes
          #2.3 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:07 PM EDT
          paul kennedy

          Throw in free pie and ice cream and it's a deal.

          • 5 votes
          #2.4 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:24 PM EDT
          landspirit

          I don't think his igloo, is wired right

          I do believe a few screws are missing also. Okay any pun in that was innocently inadvertent.

          • 6 votes
          #2.5 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:02 PM EDT
          Reply
          David S Jones

          Wow. That's just terrifying.

          • 23 votes
          Reply#3 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:37 AM EDT
          onevoiceamongmany

          The majority of the US population would be in jail... and that would just suck. Talk about big government interfering in our daily lives.

          • 28 votes
          #3.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:41 PM EDT
          DisplayName0

          The majority of the US population would be in jail...

          I wonder if in the jail there would be any illegal sexual behavior...

          • 15 votes
          #3.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:32 PM EDT
          redneck7-2262457

          Thats not exactly something I want to think about Holly S(*&

          • 1 vote
          #3.3 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:57 PM EDT
          madvargr

          The majority of the US population would be in jail.

          A noble GOP goal - they don't get to vote for people not republican while in jail and they are far easier to control locked up in those little cells. I'm sure every Republican just walks down the street imagining it clear of all the riff-raff after they are all incarcerated.

          Let's all hear again how the fundamentalist Republicans are different from the fundamentalist Taliban - I keep forgetting.

          • 12 votes
          #3.4 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:27 PM EDT
          paul kennedy

          Your memory is fine, madvargr. There's nothing to remember.

          • 5 votes
          #3.5 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:14 PM EDT
          TennisMom2

          When the GOP talks about 'jobs', now we'll know which kind of 'jobs' on which they are focused. In front of 'jobs', put the word which rhymes with 'slow'. I wouldn't want to violate the august and ever-vigilant enforcers of the COH. (You know who you are.)

          • 5 votes
          #3.6 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:47 PM EDT
          Don't you people have jobs?

          Oh TM2, it's OK.

          You are free to say BLOWJOB!!!!! all you want, (that's what the profanity filter is for... The kiddies that are too offended by the naughty words will just see @#$%%^&&**)

          You just cant be mean to the other kids...

          • 4 votes
          #3.7 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:52 PM EDT
          TennisMom2

          Okayyyyy, I'll be nice to all the other kids. Even Space Guy.

          • 3 votes
          #3.8 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:07 PM EDT
          Brite

          But a blowjob IS a job... is this the kind of jobs they were talking about???

          • 6 votes
          #3.9 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:30 PM EDT
          DisplayName0

          Brite,

          They are short of specifics; however, I am sure they be fine with BJ being counted in the statistics if it suited their PR purpose.

          • 3 votes
          #3.10 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:50 AM EDT
          Yosho

          But still want to spend millions of taxpayer dollars investigating any Dem politicians who do their part to promote the same kind of "job growth."

          • 1 vote
          #3.11 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:20 PM EDT
          Reply
          3rdtime

          Wow, just...wow.

          • 15 votes
          Reply#4 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:58 AM EDT
          inoubliable

          just a matter of time before a mistress is discovered...

          • 20 votes
          Reply#5 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:55 PM EDT
          David S Jones

          If by mistress you mean a male underage prostitute, then I agree.

          • 26 votes
          #5.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:05 PM EDT
          jmom-1225464

          Oh yea...this guy is definately buying a prostitute here and there...mistress is too high class.

          • 10 votes
          #5.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:56 PM EDT
          Yosho

          just a matter of time before a mistress is discovered...

          Well, if this were Wisconsin you'd just have to picket his house and the wife will let you know where the love shack is, and from there you can easily find out about the new state job the mistress got.

          Of course, the Repubs now seem to have the "I couldn't help it. I just couldn't contain my love of my country" defense, thanks to Newt.

          • 2 votes
          #5.3 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:25 PM EDT
          Don't you people have jobs?

          Don't forget, this is the GOP...

          So it's just as likely to be a mistER...

            #5.4 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:42 PM EDT
            Reply
            jen-793050

            Fine, then arrest Bristol Palin first. Yeah like that would happen!

            • 32 votes
            Reply#6 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:59 PM EDT
            Carol-99

            Fine, then arrest Bristol Palin first.

            . . . and then go after Mama Grizzlie Sarah, and Todd.

            http://www.adn.com/2011/03/23/1772266/senate-panel-questions-judicial.html#

            • 23 votes
            #6.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:26 PM EDT
            SgtNickAngel

            Is this why Bristol had to move to Arizona?

            • 15 votes
            #6.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:44 PM EDT
            Reply
            jbird

            Not far from the GOP's beaten path when you think about it. Afterall, there have been a couple times in the South recently, when the cops decided to dredge up ancient adultery charges out of spite or personal convictions. Kinda related to this idea.

            I wonder if he has considered, with the scandals that have befallen the GOP in recent times, that his cronies might fall into a trap of his making?

            • 17 votes
            Reply#7 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:05 PM EDT
            randomreturn

            Ugh...people like Haase make it increasingly difficult for me to consider myself republican...

            • 14 votes
            Reply#8 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:21 PM EDT
            bonos_rama

            I look at it this way; if you are anti-abortion, you SHOULD be for making unmarried sex illegal; unless you are a hypocrite!

            • 14 votes
            Reply#9 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:24 PM EDT
            A Wadsworth

            Well, when they put in the thought police - we will all be charged with a crime.

            I can hear it now - missionary position only.

            • 15 votes
            Reply#10 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:27 PM EDT
            MYOB-1251250

            And you have to supply video to prove it.

            • 12 votes
            #10.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:37 PM EDT
            redneck7-2262457

            lol then in that case everyone would be in amature porn lol

            • 5 votes
            #10.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:00 PM EDT
            paul kennedy

            Funny that you should mention that missionary thing. Anatomically, the so-called "missionary position" is not natural. So follow the logic here. If a particular sexual behavior is not "natural" then it's a sin.

            • 5 votes
            #10.3 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:36 PM EDT
            David S Jones

            I guess that means reverse cowgirl is out as well? Bummer.

            • 4 votes
            #10.4 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:49 PM EDT
            A Wadsworth

            It also means no doggie, stand and deliver, or 69. Strike the Kama Sutra from your list - damn.

            • 3 votes
            #10.5 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:01 PM EDT
            Don't you people have jobs?

            What about the "Rusty Trombone", "Portugese Breakfast" or the "Cincinnati Bow Tie"?

            • 4 votes
            #10.6 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:27 PM EDT
            Shannoscubie

            What about the "Rusty Trombone", "Portugese Breakfast" or the "Cincinnati Bow Tie"?

            I don't know whether to be grateful for or terrified of the Internet at this point.

            • 10 votes
            #10.7 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:17 PM EDT
            neenie1991

            I don't know whether to be grateful for or terrified of the Internet at this point.

            The answer is yes.

            • 7 votes
            #10.8 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:24 PM EDT
            redphish

            It does sound like it would be a good idea to have your chiropractor on speed dial for a couple of those.

            • 6 votes
            #10.9 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:27 PM EDT
            Shannoscubie

            I'm sure I can use Google without injuring myself...

            ...no wait...

            • 5 votes
            #10.10 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:30 PM EDT
            A Wadsworth

            And procreation only. None of that birth control stuff. That's what happens when you let inmates run an asylum.

            • 5 votes
            #10.11 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:43 PM EDT
            Reply
            neenie1991

            And Don "McCarthy" Hasse would enforce this how? GPS devices? Penis cams? Phone and computer bugs? Big brother.

            • 31 votes
            Reply#11 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:29 PM EDT
            Vlad's dog

            Voted up for the ingenious sarcasm!!!

            • 18 votes
            #11.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:33 PM EDT
            J. W. Welch

            neenie

            Exactly. The repubs can pass all the stupid laws they like. Enforcement might be a bit dicey.

            I can't think of any cop in his/her right mind who's going to be enthused about sneaking around in the bushes near bedroom windows so they can peek inside.

            The poor, desperate repubs just can seem to get a handle on relevance these days.

            • 14 votes
            #11.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:31 PM EDT
            redneck7-2262457

            big brother is watching you.....that is a scary thought

            • 2 votes
            #11.3 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:02 PM EDT
            1devon

            Penis Cams?

            ROFL!

            • 9 votes
            #11.4 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:17 PM EDT
            J. W. Welch

            Vagina videos?

            • 5 votes
            #11.5 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:02 PM EDT
            common sense-353470

            Only contracts will be given for monitoring devices owned by large corporations who have given to the GOP/Teabagger politicians.

            Sort of like the current billions spent on airport scanners.

            • 4 votes
            #11.6 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:09 PM EDT
            Reply
            blueingoregon

            For a man or for a woman? It seems the SARAH PALIN party absolved men from their responsibility.

            • 13 votes
            Reply#12 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:41 PM EDT
            Dennis Kemmerer

            How about some anti-blasphemy laws while you're at it, Mr. Haase.

            What an asshat.

            • 16 votes
            Reply#13 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:46 PM EDT
            clarke ong

            Beats marriage outside of sex all to hell.

            • 10 votes
            Reply#14 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:54 PM EDT
            Shannoscubie

            Well, that'll fix that whole icky gay sex thing, too, since they can't get married.

            • 12 votes
            Reply#15 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:00 PM EDT
            JAVE

            Infidelity is the cause of much social ill. There is a reason every culture and society regulates the matter in some way. Imprisonment worthy illegal sounds extreme for a cheating spouse or the single person cheating with a married person. Civil law, community disgust and judgement is different. Look at America and the cultures that don't value marriage and have most of their children outside a family. They don't do well. Family is a basic thing that separates people from animals.

            What this Alaskan politician's shtick is I don't know or care. That is the business of the locals. Basic issues of family, society, culture and children should be cautiously legislated by the government.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#16 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:08 PM EDT
            swagg

            Jave the Menendezes was a perfect family at one time, it doesn't always work out well when you force assimilation on people. Some of the happier people I know, is that way because they got far as they can away from family. No one can hurt you like family, because with them it hurts more.

            • 7 votes
            #16.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:42 PM EDT
            Brite

            The Celts had a GREAT society until the Christians came and wrecked it... they had 3 types of marriage, all legal, and were matriarchal. Children were held in common, and no one cared who the father was.

            Cheating is seems to be a real issue of patriarchal societies...

            • 16 votes
            #16.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:52 PM EDT
            JAVE

            Jave the Menendezes was a perfect family at one time, it doesn't always work out well when you force assimilation on people

            I'm not sure who they are. I would imagine they are not Americans. No American is forced to accept being American.

            . No one can hurt you like family, because with them it hurts more.

            That is true. I'm just not picking up the frequency with the Alaskan and the sex outside marriage.

            The Celts had a GREAT society until the Christians came and wrecked it...

            That would be the Pagan's, the Romans. Who besides the Catholic Church and their people in the Celtic lands preserved Celtic culture till today? Our knowledge, beliefs and traditions of the Celts live in the people of Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Manx, Brittany.

            • 2 votes
            #16.3 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:19 PM EDT
            Brite

            Yes... Pagans... and?? Point??

            • 3 votes
            #16.4 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:33 PM EDT
            Timba65

            The Menendez family is American. Two sons that shot their parents in their sleep. Your dea of marriage is completely misguided, most likely by the church. Marriage is an institution created by Lords in order to increase their serf population. You know, I don't have enough slave labor working to fill my dinner plate so I need my slaves to have more children. They used the church, which of course they controlled, to facilitate that plan. There is only one mammal on earth that is monogamous and mates for life, wolves. Sadly that mammal is being wiped out with the aid of the very asshats that supposedly champion marriage. I imagine they want to keep a large, misinformed, impoverished, undereducated serf population to do their bidding and consolidate their power. Why don't you?

            • 5 votes
            #16.5 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:05 AM EDT
            Yosho

            There is only one mammal on earth that is monogamous and mates for life, wolves.

            Which causes another flip-flop in Religious Reich "logic." They're all about this or that sexual activity that they disapprove of as being "unnatural." Then you point out something like this to show that lifelong monogamy doesn't occur in nature or the many studies showing same-sex activities taking place among multiple species and they change their tune to "Are you no better than animals?"

            • 1 vote
            #16.6 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:04 PM EDT
            JAVE

            The Celts had a GREAT society until the Christians came and wrecked it...

            Yes... Pagans... and?? Point??

            The Roman's were Pagan not Christian when they conquered the Celtic lands. (PS. The Celts were not a matrimonial society. That's why it is O'Brian instead of O' Bridget)

            Jave the Menendezes was a perfect family at one time, it doesn't always work out well when you force assimilation on people.

            The Menendez family is American

            If that is the case, then assimilation was not forced on them.

            • 1 vote
            #16.7 - Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:19 AM EDT
            Brite

            JAVE -- I was thinking more about the Christian conversion of the Celts... think about it...

            • 4 votes
            #16.8 - Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:15 AM EDT
            Timba65

            Yosho-in most cases I find that animals are better than people. They don't lie, they won't cheat you, and they don't hide their motives. I would rather spend a day with my dog than many people I have ever met.

            • 2 votes
            #16.9 - Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:53 PM EDT
            JAVE

            JAVE -- I was thinking more about the Christian conversion of the Celts... think about it...

            Yes, enough wickedness was done converting the Celts. The Catholic church didn't try and never succeeded, in ending Pagan beliefs among the Celts. More then other people the Catholics took in the Celt's beliefs and made them their own. Many a Pagan goddess like Bridget became a Saint. Were Holy places desecrated or turned into Churches? Excepting wars between kings and chiefs, massacres of the people to convert them were rather unknown in the Celtic lands I've been told.

            Who killed the Druids? The Pagan Romans.

            The conversion of the Celts from Pagan faith to Catholic faith had it's share of good and bad. It seemed a better outcome then a place like Spain. Even there, the Celts of Galacia were who saved the Spanish from being Muslim.

            I will consider the violence of the conversion to Christianity more. You should consider the Celtic Catholic Church. It was not under Rome's orders for quite some time. Consider how much Pagan Celtic tradition, values and beliefs live to this day among the Celtic people and their lands. Look at the success and the accomplishments of the Celtic diaspora. Every foreign land the Celts immigrated to are successful to this day. Typically the 'Top Shelf' of world nations.

            Look at the history of world religion, the conversion of the Celts was much more willing and worked out better for the common man then what "Religious Conversion", typically means among man. The Celts were not conquered by Christianity. The new and old priests, the new and old leaders, the new and old people were still all Celts. "Say hello to the new boss, same as the old boss."

              #16.10 - Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:17 PM EDT
              Brite

              JAVE --

              The Celts werre matriarchal... family names may have been patriarchal, but inheritance rights came from BOTH sides. There was more equality in the sexes, than you think. Brehon law was not male dominated, but far more equally based. Druids were not all male. Nor were Bards nor the Ovates.

              The Flame of Brghid still burns and is tended by women. And though She was co=opted, She was no more co-opted as a saint, as Mary was co-opted as a Goddess, now.

              • 1 vote
              #16.11 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:53 PM EDT
              Reply
              DisplayName0

              Maybe Mr. Haase has a financial interest is sex toy business and he's hoping to drive up business by discouraging intercourse. On the other hand, maybe he is pro-masturbation. Who knows?

              • 9 votes
              Reply#17 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:12 PM EDT
              Yosho

              On the other hand, maybe he is pro-masturbation.

              No pun intended, I'm sure.

              • 2 votes
              #17.1 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:00 AM EDT
              DisplayName0

              Yosho,

              Now if that would have been an intended pun it would have been stroke of genius which doesn't come about to often for me. Though when I try to get both hands around it, it is hard to deny your observation. Anyway, the main thrust of my point is that perhaps Mr. Haase just pulled a massive boner.

              • 5 votes
              #17.2 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:20 AM EDT
              Timba65

              Now that's funny. I however believe the guy just struck out too many times trying to pick up barflies and came to the conclusion the only way he would ever get laid was by trapping some poor woman in a loveless marriage. Conservatives still believe that you can't rape her if she's your property, I mean wife. Newt, Limbaugh, and company fully appreciate the sanctity of marriage, just look at how many times they've done it.

              • 6 votes
              #17.3 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:10 AM EDT
              Reply
              wtf-over

              These are the people who claim to respect and protect the constitution. These are the people who say they want small government and want it out of our lives.

              These are the people who, given half a chance, will take us back to the dark ages. Complete with the inquisition and the crusades.

              I believe trying to force your religious views on others, outside the church, should be illegal and doing it within government should be an automatic recall.

              • 14 votes
              Reply#18 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:14 PM EDT
              Brite

              NO body expects the Alaskan INQUISITION!

              • 12 votes
              #18.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:53 PM EDT
              redneck7-2262457

              lol great monty python refrance hillarious

              • 4 votes
              #18.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:08 PM EDT
              Bill Fuller

              No! No! Anything but the comfy chair position!

              • 3 votes
              #18.3 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:24 PM EDT
              Dennis Kemmerer

              wtf-over wrote:

              These are the people who claim to respect and protect the constitution.

              Maybe he's thinking it's job creation. After all, with a law like this, we'd need a whole lot of sex police.

              Most of these constitution-wavers couldn't get past an introductory law class.

              • 2 votes
              #18.4 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:07 PM EDT
              Timba65

              Now, now Dennis, everybody knows that you can learn the entirety of the Constitution at a three day seminar. For those that don't I point to Christine "what you mean I can't use political contributions to pay my rent" O'Donnell. Or is she better known as "Show me where in the Constitution there is a separation of church and state" O'Donnell?

              • 3 votes
              #18.5 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:18 AM EDT
              Reply
              demo scout

              Well, they'd better start building more jails in AK, lots more. I wonder if this guy has any close relatives in the jail building business. If he's a Republican there is a good chance that is his motive.

              • 12 votes
              Reply#19 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:26 PM EDT
              The Gunshark

              Welcome to 1984, people.

              This is the kind of behavior that Orwell warned about.

              Now repeat after the Republican mantra: "No sex is good sex unless it supports the party."

              • 15 votes
              Reply#20 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:27 PM EDT
              DisplayName0

              well, we all know it is Julia's fault.

              • 5 votes
              #20.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:37 PM EDT
              paul kennedy

              Yeah. Love Is Hate.

              • 2 votes
              #20.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:52 PM EDT
              common sense-353470

              'God Hates' signs are already used regularly.

              • 3 votes
              #20.3 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:27 PM EDT
              Self Defender

              It's not what your party can do for your pooty, it's what your pooty can do for the party. :)

              Side Note: I truly believe that God hates those "GOD hates..." signs more than the things the signs say that God hates.

              • 2 votes
              #20.4 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:48 PM EDT
              Reply
              sms29s66

              Okay, what sketeton does he have in his closet? Bigamy? Pedaphilia? Incest? Murder? Seems to me that the more extreme the position, the more its holder is hiding.

              • 15 votes
              Reply#21 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:27 PM EDT
              J. W. Welch

              My bet would be lunacy.

              • 12 votes
              #21.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:33 PM EDT
              Robert Duckworth

              With a skeleton it would be necrophilia.......right?

              • 8 votes
              #21.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:44 PM EDT
              sms29s66

              Robert, BRILLIANT! :)

              • 2 votes
              #21.3 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:58 PM EDT
              common sense-353470

              My bet would be lunacy.

              The guy definitely has that look,especially about the eyes, creepy.

              • 3 votes
              #21.4 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:29 PM EDT
              Timba65

              Everybody knows that what women want is a sense of humor and if this guys idea of what is the proper course isn't funny I don't know what is. Wait, I think I just confused funny and sad. Let me check with Fox to make sure I got it right.

              • 2 votes
              #21.5 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:25 AM EDT
              Reply
              Brian-497171

              I wonder if there is any part of the Republican voter block that is secretly concerned about the Totalitarian bent that their party is taking?

              This is beginning to seem more and more like the land that our ancestors fled from in order to found this great country.

              Also, could any Repub here explain why Obama's big government is bad but the Republican big government is good?

              Thanks in advance.

              • 19 votes
              Reply#22 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:39 PM EDT
              bluewildcat

              hmm, wonder of he is related to Palin.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#23 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:43 PM EDT
              Pablo-123

              Sounds an awful lot like sharia law.

              • 7 votes
              Reply#24 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:50 PM EDT
              swagg

              Sha-tea law a baggers guide to belief..

              • 8 votes
              #24.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:56 PM EDT
              swagg

              ..

                #24.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:58 PM EDT
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                Fishyone Kenobi

                This is why they want to privitize prisons; they plan on stocking them with all sorts of "morally unfit" people. These tea party evangelicals are the biggest threat to freedom that our great Country has ever faced. They will push a brand of BIG government that threatens to divide this Country and set the stage for the next civil war. The moral bigots will lose again; and religion will be purged from the government once and for all.

                • 11 votes
                Reply#25 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:03 PM EDT
                Pablo-123

                They will push a brand of BIG government that threatens to divide this Country and set the stage for the next civil war

                That's what I'm hoping for. I live in the "liberal" northeast. I would be perfectly happy if we split the country up, and let all the redneck religious states become the confederacy. We should have let them walk 150 years ago.

                • 6 votes
                #25.1 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:35 PM EDT
                Shannoscubie

                I would be perfectly happy if we split the country up, and let all the redneck religious states become the confederacy.

                Nooooo, don't leave me here!!!

                • 14 votes
                #25.2 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:37 PM EDT
                tesla013

                Think of all the jobs that will be created building prisons for 3/4 of the adult American population. And even better nearly all politicians will be the first to be arrested. I love it.

                Pablo; Think of the farmers you will alienate. Time to retire your bigoted stereotype. You were aware that redneck was another term for farmers right??? You are a prime example of the reasons so many southerners distrust those from the north. You merely pay lip service to ideals you expect everyone else to live up too and follow to the letter.

                Kenobi: What exactly is a moral bigot? Contradiction in terms ain't it? I think you are just terrified of being held responsible for your self and your actions. Careful what you wish for. You know us southern folks are just a bunch of gun nuts.

                • 5 votes
                #25.3 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:48 PM EDT
                featheredserpent

                Fishyone,

                I sincerely hope you are right, before we find ourselves in the American Inquisition. perhaps Newt Gingrich could assume the role of a modern day Torquemada?

                • 7 votes
                #25.4 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:04 PM EDT
                Pablo-123

                Pablo; Think of the farmers you will alienate. Time to retire your bigoted stereotype. You were aware that redneck was another term for farmers right??? You are a prime example of the reasons so many southerners distrust those from the north. You merely pay lip service to ideals you expect everyone else to live up too and follow to the letter.

                Not all farm states are red states. Besides, we have most of the money, we can afford to buy food. I could give a crap less if southerners trust me. Do I really sound like that bothers me?

                What I want is for dumb ass rednecks to stop shoving their religious agenda down my throat. My wife and I pay more than our fair share of taxes. I'm sick and tired of low income red state inbreds whining about big government while they are in 15% tax brackets and trying to invade my bedroom.

                Quite honestly I don't care if I alienate them, or cause them to distrust me. I don't much care for them anyway.

                • 5 votes
                #25.5 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:50 PM EDT
                paul kennedy

                Fear not Fishyone. Like we used to say in the '80s, "The Moral Majority is neither."

                • 5 votes
                #25.6 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:57 PM EDT
                neenie1991

                FYI:

                Origins of the word 'Redneck'

                19th century West Virgina saw conflict between coal Miners and Mine owners. Due to unjust conditions imposed by Mine owners, Miners formed a Mine Workers Union. Not all Mines were unionized and Southern West Virginian Mine owners worked diligently to prevent unionization.

                10,000 thousand odd Northern Union Mine workers led a march to the southern non Union West Virgina where their brother miners were denied unionization . Southern West Virgina Mine owners employed law enforcement, politicians and 'private detectives' (nothing more than company employed thugs) to harass, intimidate , imprison and kill miners who tried to Unionize.

                The marching Union Mine workers tied a red scarf/bandanna around their necks to identify themselves. A reporter who was covering this march coined the term 'Redneck'.

                Interesting, right? Now it's become a pejorative. Scott Walker does not like rednecks. I wonder if he would say that. But that's another conversation.

                • 6 votes
                #25.7 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:12 PM EDT
                paul kennedy

                C'mon folks! Dumbass isn't a place, it's an attitude. There are mean, stupid people anywhere a person can go. Some of the coolest people I've ever met were from the Deep South.

                • 3 votes
                #25.8 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:13 PM EDT
                paul kennedy

                Great information, neenie.

                • 1 vote
                #25.9 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:17 PM EDT
                Soph0571

                Now it's become a pejorative. Scott Walker does not like rednecks. I wonder if he would say that. But that's another conversation.

                But a really interesting one. There is something to discuss there I think

                • 5 votes
                #25.10 - Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:34 PM EDT
                Fishyone Kenobi

                I worked with real rednecks. All of them were honest hard working people that always did the right thing and they didn't thump bibles. The new tea party is certainly not redneck, they are manic red state zealots with golf ball eyes bent on reshaping America into a perfect Christian utopia where workers work for peanuts and give 10% to god people to lord over them.

                • 4 votes
                #25.11 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:53 AM EDT
                tesla013

                "Not all farm states are red states..." my oh my. Well Pablo I see bigotry and prejudice are alive and well. "Low income red state inbreds" ahhh just brims with civility. I for one am glad to know you are a fellow American and you do your "side" nothing but justice with your profound comments.

                Neenie was that the only story on the origins of the term?????

                • 1 vote
                #25.12 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:52 AM EDT
                neenie1991

                Likely not. I used that one because I had seen a documentary about it and I felt/knew that it was the truest definition as applied to the US.

                We know how words and terms get bastardized in the language.

                • 4 votes
                #25.13 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:48 PM EDT
                tesla013

                Farmers began to be called such way back in the early ?1900's late 1800's? because the back of thier necks would become burned from prolonged exposure to the sun being in the fields. It was not a term of endearment then either.

                • 4 votes
                #25.14 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:07 PM EDT
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