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President Obama is on a tour of Europe that kicked off on Ireland and featured a trip to a small Irish village where his maternal great-great-great-grandfather was born.
And that just cracks Bryan Fischer up because Obama "can't talk enough about how white he is and how white his heritage is," unlike Herman Cain, who is, Fischer asserts, "authentically black":
Fischer: Unlike President Obama, Herman Cain Is 'Authentically Black'
Seeded on Mon May 23, 2011 4:07 PM EDT
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President Obama is half-white, and half-black; Herman Cain is all black; he's authentically black; he is the real black man in the race.
- 21 votes
With all the homophobic, misogynistic and racist garbage Fischer's been spewing lately, I've got to believe somebody at the AFA accidentally reversed his internal "ass" and "mouth" tubes.
- 57 votes
Obama is the real melting pot. Can't get more American than that.
- 74 votes
I would like to ask Mr. Fischer why it matters who's black and who is not?
Plus, previously the GOP wanted us believe that Michael Steele was more "authentically black" than the President. I know. I can't say that with a straight face, either. But that's what they were trying to sell us.
- 48 votes
President Obama is on a tour of Europe that kicked off on Ireland and featured a trip to a small Irish village where his maternal great-great-great-grandfather was born.
And that just cracks Bryan Fischer up because Obama "can't talk enough about how white he is and how white his heritage is," unlike Herman Cain, who is, Fischer asserts, "authentically black."
Like a snowball in hell.
How do you crack a crackpot up?
- 12 votes
I am happy for Herman Cain that he is authentically all black. However that just means his chances of being nominated by the Republican party are between slim and none... and slim just left town.
- 56 votes
Since when does ANYONE need someone's approval to look into their family roots?
This right here? Race baiting politics of how to push bigotted segregationist politics.
Fischer might as well have just told Obama to shut his mouth about being related to white folks.
This @!$%# is white supremacist 101. Who the hell does Fischer think he is?
- 35 votes
Unlike some containers that also hold vinegar and water, Fischer's authentically a douchebag, that's for sure.
- 29 votes
Unlike some containers that also hold vinegar and water, Fischer's authentically a douchebag, that's for sure.
Good! Spot on Rob.
And, ya'know... he comes by it sooo naturally too.
Leave it to the far nosebleed right to determine what's "authentic" for everyone else. As if their own sh!t doesn't stink to high hell and back.
- 11 votes
#1.3"Plus, previously the GOP wanted us believe that Michael Steele was more "authentically black" than the President. I know. I can't say that with a straight face, either. But that's what they were trying to sell us.
In addition, I would like to see the genealogy documentation that states that Herman Cain has no other blood running through his veins- other than Black/African Blood!
This would include any European, Asian, South American, Australian, Icelandic or any other continental "entanglements". I doubt if this documentation could be produced. Again people should speak on what they actually know.
This statement was made by someone using only Mr. Cain's skin color as pre-judgement that he is "authentically black"! Stupid rubbish.
- 27 votes
That's the tricky thing about being a "person of color" in the US. There are some people angry at you for being black and a whole lot more who are upset that you're not black enough. . .
"I know this might be hard to believe, but there was a time when it was worse to be Irish in this town than it is to be black RIGHT NOW. . ."
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"I know this might be hard to believe, but there was a time when it was worse to be Irish in this town than it is to be black RIGHT NOW. . ."
Being half-Irish, I'm very used to being told I'm not black enough. ;-)
- 22 votes
dwillie,
Trolls? give me a f-in break! Anytime anyone on the left cant handle opposition you run and hid behind the "troll card"!
Was Obama's "blackness" discussed by his own party when he ran in 2008 or not? It is a simple question.
Clinton-backer Ferraro: Obama Where He Is Because He's Black
Is Obama Black Enough?
LATimes: Obama Not 'Black Enough'?
This was discussed during the 2008 election, why is it sudedenly racist by the opposition to be asking about the level of "blackness"?
- 11 votes
I'm not so sure why this fkhead finds it amusing that Obama is in Ireland to visit the land of his ancestors after he admits Obama is half-white.
Maybe I'm just missing the funny part.
- 15 votes
Cain is an authentic uncle Tom. He's a minstrel dancer in black face for the new millennium.
Fischer says our boy is blacker then your boy . How racist is that?
- 15 votes
Knuckledraggin' Angry White Male
Was Obama's "blackness" discussed by his own party when he ran in 2008 or not? It is a simple question.
It should not be too difficult of a question to answer.
Apparently it was, and apparently it still is being discussed. But that is irrelevant unless you believe he was elected because of his race. And that apparently means, if that is what you believe and based on Fischer's comments, that Cain is going to win because he is "authentically black".
This particular discussion is likely indicative of a few things: racism and/or the fact that being black means you are going to win the presidency.
And that Obama being in Ireland to visit where some of his ancestors came from is funny.
- 13 votes
Well, as I said in another thread, the teabaggers like Cain partly because he's rightwing wacko, and partly because they think his tan cancels out Obama's tan.
Of course, what's REALLY funny to anybody with ANY knowledge of history and genetic heritage, is that the only "authentically" black people in the US, that is people with ancestors who can ONLY be traced back say five or six generations or so to ancesters that ONLY lived in Africa, are recent Immigrants from some African country. Everybody else, sorry but you are as "african" as Obama is. I can take any "black" person in this country who has ancestors that lived in this hemisphere, and I WILL find a non-African ancestor.
- 6 votes
I got this, yes they did and they discussed how white mc Cain is. Too. Your point?
Angry white boy does that do it for ya. I got more if you can stand it. Step off..
- 5 votes
jwtiii
Thanks for the lesson in Xenophobia who would ever have considered people from different lands, color, faith would be discriminated against by the existing population. Can you recommend a book or a source to learn more?
- 1 vote
The teabags and teapublicans pushing for Cain are only doing it as proof they aren't racists to anyone gullible enough to believe them. None of them would ever actually vote for Cain, as if he'd ever make it through to the primaries. The poor fool is being duped by the same group of people that think the only reason that Obama was elected president is because he's black.
I would like to see Herman Cain's birth certificate. /s
- 8 votes
hard2port, that is a legit request. If this man wins the nomination for the republicans, said republicans will demand a birth certificate, right? Or were they just attacking Obama because he is half white?
- 7 votes
malcontentious
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Comment collapsed by the communityYes, Malcon, because we all know you can only have one cultural background. Even though, we all have 2 parents, and their 2 parents had 2 parents, and so on and so forth going back thousands of years.
So tell me, what is your cultural background? I guess mine would be African.
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This was discussed during the 2008 election, why is it sudedenly racist by the opposition to be asking about the level of "blackness"?
Who said this was racist again, knuckles? I just pointed out that our president gets this cr-p from Fischer right after the Kenyan/anti-colonialist/Mau-Mau stuff from Gingrich and on and on. It never seems to end. FDR had to put up with this kind of thing also. . .
Sometimes I wish he would actually screw something up so that these asshats would have something substantive to criticize him about!
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It should not be too difficult of a question to answer.
Got a question for you, knuckles. . . What would happen if you curled your fingers? Or wore gloves? Do you like the callouses? Do they hurt? Does the pain distract you when your trying to (for lack of a better word) think?
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So tell me, what is your cultural background? I guess mine would be African.
I see your one and raise it 1
Irish and Middle Eastern,
Cain is an authentic uncle Tom. He's a minstrel dancer in black face for the new millennium.
Fischer says our boy is blacker then your boy . How racist is that?
It always amazes me how so many on the left actually fail to see their own racism.
A little too ironic, yes I really do think :)
- 6 votes
Thank you Malcon for proving my point. Why cant he be Irish again?
- 6 votes
BTW, Fisher is a RL troll, is that so hard to agree on?
But why the insistance to try and drag Cain down? The man has some solid ideas, and seems to be willing to talk and think "outside the box" - don't we need more of that, especially these days?
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_20th_century_chart.html
After the last financial meltdown, so many we asking "why were there not more voices of warning about the bubble?"
Well, we got em now (as the federal reserve buys up 70% of our OWN debt) - and what do we do? Throw partisan mud.
Ya, that's the ticket.
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So since he is now Irish and also able to decide where borders should be like in Isreal, maybe he can give back "Na Se' Chontae," "the occupied territory "becuas eif he rally is Irish he understands it is the right thing to do.
I wonder how many people are hypocritical enough to think the Irish deserve to be free of occupation while the Palestinians don't. That would be a hoot if someone were that much of a hypocrite.
- 7 votes
This article has me ROTFLMAO. President Obama looks 'black' to me-he married a black woman and has black children. Not only that, I find it wonderful to have a real family (i.e. husband and wife only married once, and to each other; and two real children-not post teens intent on the dating scene) occupying the White House. Yep, it is the first black family-had to happen some time !!
- 12 votes
OH, but Republicans are not racist at all...
After all the hype by the FAR RIGHT that Obama is not American, but rather a Kenyan...Now they are going to claim Obama is not black enough...
Go figure, but somehow it makes sense...Wonder what Trump, Beck, Limbaugh and the rest of the WACKOS will say now...
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I would like to ask Mr. Fischer why it matters who's black and who is not?
because Obama can not play the race card on Cain... Obama's worst fear.
- 6 votes
because Obama can not play the race card on Cain...
Even though Cain himself played the race card...
Cain’s claim is a ridiculous, cynical play of the race card. We rate it Pants on Fire.
http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2011/apr/08/herman-cain/cain-claims-planned-parenthood-founded-planned-gen/
- 17 votes
jake319,
Angry white boy does that do it for ya. I got more if you can stand it. Step off..
Nope! We are not talking about McCain are we? We are talking about Cain and the discussion of his race and the fact that it is nothing new to discuss the candidates color and whether or not he fits into the left wings sterotype of what a black candidate should be.
If you dont believe me jsut look at those on the left referring to Cain as an "Uncle Tom" already and that he apparently does not fit into the little pigeon hole that the left has so that they can be tolerant.
Step off? Grow up! You may have more but that is like saying that you have not emptied the garbage can completely.
- 6 votes
Cain should be ashamed of himself, he should know by now that the only ones allowed to play the race acard are the Dems and anyone else playing it is only a "uncle tom" racist.
- 8 votes
If being black means you have african ancesters, then we are all black.
Some of us just have lighter skin than others.
- 12 votes
I'ts kinda funny that the gop babbles this crap. IF Mr Cain's family can be traced in the US for many generations, the chances are that he isn't quite so 'Authentically Black' as fischer wants to crow about. I challenege Mr fischer to get mr cain to do a DNA profile test like they did on that family tree program on PBS and see if he is 100% black.
- 5 votes
Instead of being concerned about who is authentically black, teapublicans need to be concerned about how little Cain knows about America. The man actually had the audacity (tongue in cheek) to claim that language from the Declaration of Independence is in the US Constitution. However, he at least articulated it very well (and you know how blacks get lots of points for articulation amongst racist whites AND racist blacks).
I hope that Cain can stand up to the firestorm of very close inspection. /sarc/
- 2 votes
All black, Who is stupid enough to believe this? No such thing!!!!!!
- 2 votes
Authentically black my azz!! MOST American born black people are not all black. Last names Williams and Jackson have Irish/Welsh origins and I will be damned if "Cain" does also!!!
Cain Surname Origin
Welsh and Gaelic) Chaste, beloved, fair, beautiful.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/surnames/origin/c/cain.php
- 7 votes
Its stupidity all the way around. My grandmother looked as white as any European with blue eyes and red hair. There are no authentic blacks in this country if white blood makes you not black or wait do we all of a sudden become black when we aren't President?
- 3 votes
To me, it's blue or red that's important, not black or white. That's why I voted for Obama, and will help re-elect him.
- 6 votes
Or were they just attacking Obama because he is half white?
No, it was because Mr. "I plan to run a transparent administration." didn't believe that included himself, the misinterpretationabout the qualification to run if one parent is not a U.S. citizen, some of the passages from his book, and some other things that have nothing to do with your question about his birth certificate. It would be interesting to research Cain's ancestry and see just how "authentically black" he really is.
- 1 vote
the misinterpretationabout the qualification to run if one parent is not a U.S. citizen
BIRTHE ALERT!! BIRTHER ALERT!!!
Birther Troll says what....?
- 5 votes
An extremely old and bigoted world view that still holds on to the race dogma. Y'all want to talk about Science??? Take the cotton swab test. Your DNA can be traced back to your ethnic ancestors. In fact, they can trace all of us back to the original tribe in Africa 250,000 to 350,000 years. I guess our right wing does not believe in Science, the world is flat and they would choke on the concept that in one way we are all (gasp!) African Americans.
SO WHAT? Race is an obsolete term. We are all "muts" in the world dog pen. It is just a matter of percentages of different ethnic groups in our genes. That's reality, so there really is no choice but to accept it. I guess we are left with judging each other for who we are here and now, the quality of the people you meet instead of their pedigree. This ain't a dog show.
I am OK with diversity. What some people can't stand is that Obama is diversity personified. It is a rite of passage for America to simply accept who we are in 2011, accept diversity. That's exactly what the Tea Party and right wing does not accept.
Check out National Geographic for the genetic studies linking all people back to the original African tribe.
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Knuckledraggin' Angry White Male asked a valid question (didn't violate the CoH or the UA) and you gang-flag collapsed him and called him a troll??
Classic example of they hypocrisy of the left. Too bad the CoH or the UA doesn't say anything about gang-flagging comments solely because you disagree with them. That should be a violation of the CoH in my opinion.
I'll ask it too. Was it or was it not the left that made Obama's "blackness" an issue when he ran in 2008 or not?
Birther Troll says what....?
Reported for violating the CoH by personally attacking another Newsvine member.
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The man actually had the audacity (tongue in cheek) to claim that language from the Declaration of Independence is in the US Constitution. However, he at least articulated it very well (and you know how blacks get lots of points for articulation amongst racist whites AND racist blacks).
And Obama thought we had 58 states. Hmmmmmmm......
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And Obama thought we had 58 states.
Distortion of a slip of the tongue....you know just as well as everyone else here, that Obama never thought we had 58 states...shall we begin covering Bush's slips of the tongue again? At least his were funny.
And Prophat has a valid point, nothing inappropriate or off-topic about Knuckle's question...it should not have been collapsed. But I disagree with this...of course.
Birther Troll says what....?
Reported for violating the CoH by personally attacking another Newsvine member
Attacking? Please, they are attempting to re-hash already put to bed arguments, if that isn't trollish behavior, what is? I didn't insult their intelligence, or question their ancestry, I merely pointed out the irrelevancy of 90% of the content of the post.
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Prophat247
Knuckledraggin' Angry White Male asked a valid question (didn't violate the CoH or the UA) and you gang-flag collapsed him and called him a troll??Classic example of they hypocrisy of the left. Too bad the CoH or the UA doesn't say anything about gang-flagging comments solely because you disagree with them. That should be a violation of the CoH in my opinion.
You see a question somewhere in here?
Knuckledraggin' Angry White Male Comment collapsed by the community
This is a friggin riot by you left wingers, when Obama entered the fray for president he had all of his supporters and detractors discussing how black he was, or was not.Harry Reid in '08: Obama's Race is a Plus Because He Doesn't Have a 'Negro Dialect'
Obama's mixed background raises question of racial categoriesTHese same questions were being bantered about BEFORE Fisher, by the very same people that claimed to SUPPORT Obama.
Once again the left is trying to make sure everyone focus' on their opponents track record in hopes that people forget about theirs!
Nope, just a derail.
- 1 vote
Pretty convenient or just plain disingenuous to ignore #1.16.
Any one of you on the left,
Was Obama's "blackness" discussed by his own party when he ran in 2008 or not? It is a simple question.
It should not be too difficult of a question to answer.
So which is it Smith Cassidy convenient or plain disingenuous? Or were you just trying to smear and attack me like so many other people on Newsvine attempt to do but end up failing just like you did?
- 2 votes
I hear the violins, Prophat.
Anyway, back to your comment in 1.50.
Prophat247
Knuckledraggin' Angry White Male asked a valid question (didn't violate the CoH or the UA) and you gang-flag collapsed him and called him a troll??Classic example of they hypocrisy of the left. Too bad the CoH or the UA doesn't say anything about gang-flagging comments solely because you disagree with them. That should be a violation of the CoH in my opinion.
I'll ask it too. Was it or was it not the left that made Obama's "blackness" an issue when he ran in 2008 or not?
I pointed out Knuckle's first post in this seed had NO question in it. None. And that was collapsed and also the comment that caused dwillie's 'troll' comment.
Knuckle posted again, and his post was statements followed up by a rhetorical question. ie, not really a question. That was followed by my dnftt comment.
And if you would get down off your high-horse, you would notice that I did in fact give my opinion to the question you quoted, which was Knuckle's 3rd or 4th post in this seed.
So of the two of us, which is being disingenuous and misleading?
Or were you just trying to smear and attack me like so many other people on Newsvine attempt to do but end up failing just like you did?
And to reiterate, I hear the violins and am shedding a tear for you right now.
And finally, I daresay the color of Obama's skin tone was noticed by everybody across all political ideologies and walks of life. Or are you really trying to imply that those on the 'right' weren't aware of the shade of his skin?
- 2 votes
First you said that there wasn't a question, but now there is a question, but it's a rhetorical question so it's not really a question (in your opinion of course). Hmm...
I pointed out Knuckle's first post in this seed had NO question in it. None. And that was collapsed and also the comment that caused dwillie's 'troll' comment.
If the their first post in this seed had NO question in it do you really think that was the one I was talking about when I said:
Knuckledraggin' Angry White Male asked a valid question...
Hmm... That's a tough one to figure out isn't it?
And yes, you answered his question with this:
Apparently it was, and apparently it still is being discussed. But that is irrelevant unless you believe he was elected because of his race. And that apparently means, if that is what you believe and based on Fischer's comments, that Cain is going to win because he is "authentically black".
It's not irrelevant just because you say so Smith Cassidy. Further more, the question had little to do with what this Mr. Fischer says or believes.
And if you would get down off your high-horse, you would notice that I did in fact give my opinion to the question you quoted, which was Knuckle's 3rd or 4th post in this seed.
Where did I say that his question didn't get answered? That's right, I didn't.
All that work you went through and you still didn't address the point of my initial post and that was that his comment was collapsed even though it had no CoH or UA violation in it.
You know what forget it, this isn't worth my time. All you are interested in is slap fighting with me and I don't play that game.
Untracked.
- 3 votes
headline should have read this: "Fischer, Unlike President Obama, is authentically retarded"
- 3 votes
my funny comment should have had way more votes up, come on people wheres your humor?
- 1 vote
Oh please let's have this fight in public. I want 99% of minorities to vote for Obama this time.
Herman Cain is all black; he's authentically black; he is the real black man in the race.
Not according to Malcom X...
- 19 votes
Wow, hard to believe people can be so ignorant sometimes. If Herman Cain were running for the Democratic nomination, MAYBE there would be an opportunity for statistical pettifogging...even though Obama would still collect the majority of that minority vote between the two because he's the successful incumbent, and it's a fact that there's been a consistent minority voting tendency towards Democrat conveniently ignored until 2008...votes that conservatives continue to proudly push away as a signal to rally the only base they cared about. This one is barely worth a comment. Herman Cain will soon find out that he is authentically black too as he seeks support for the Teabaggers/GOP nomination. This is a non-subject.
- 19 votes
madvargr,
So you are advocating voting for someone solely on the color of their skin and not the content of their character?
- 6 votes
Do you idiots on the left
CoH please. That was not necessary
- 12 votes
Reidy: I'll tell you how the left will portray Cain.He's a corporate elite former CEO who brought his company to profitability on the backs of his workers.Cutting wages and benefits when enriching himself.A man who when asked of a major issue in Israeli-Palestinian affairs,was TOTALLY CLUELESS.A man who has yet to offer a single solution to ANY of the nation's problems.Platitudes and soundbites.That's ALL he's got.
- 13 votes
A man who has yet to offer a single solution to ANY of the nation's problems.Platitudes and soundbites.That's ALL he's got.
So he is no better than Obama...wait he probably is ..he was deputy chairman of the Fed Reserve! He actually accomplished something!
- 4 votes
.He's a corporate elite former CEO who brought his company to profitability on the backs of his workers.
Silly me, and here I thought he had simply run his company in an efficient manner that allowed the company to provide a public desired good at competitive prices, thus providing thousands of jobs and consumer choice.
Just curious, is there ANY company CEO that you wouldn't describe in the manner you did?
While unaccountable capitalism is certainly fraught with peril, perhaps you would be so kind as to point out the political/economic system you (and I would infer Obama) would be planning for America's future?
- 4 votes
Thousands of jobs at crappy wages ok fine.Consumer choice? Yeah we REALLY need another pizza joint!
- 7 votes
MMcCroskey --- You do not understand all corporations are evil and only make money because they oppress minorities, women, and the sometimes the poor (except southern poor white people who deserve to be oppressed because after all they live in the south and probably vote GOP and thereby must be racists, or there great-great-great grandfather fought for the south and so a slave owner by proxy.)
- 5 votes
@reidie....seems the gop is playing the actaual race card this time! Just look at the fischer statement. DOH! And you want to sling idiots at the left.......ROTFFL hysterically! What a maroon!
- 2 votes
You think and act as though racist aren't in the democratic party. It's about is getting that MINORITY vote and that's it.
It is about getting the minority vote. But it is also about representing constituents in minority communities. You know, the ones the GOP would like to pretend don't exist?
- 5 votes
Saying this Fischer douchebag speaks for the Republican Party is identical to saying Louis Farrakhan speaks for the Democratic Party.
Neither statement is in any way, shape or form true.
- 3 votes
Do you idiots on the left.
Reidy-3123354, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.
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With trying to be cute and yet mindful of CoH.
Teaparty = Authentically displeasing.
Do you idiots on the left.
Reidy-3123354, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.
Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.
Sally, if this is the rule, then why do I read "all Republicans are idiots" all the time and no one gets banned for it? Reidy didn't attack anyone personally, only made a generalized statement. So is it OK for the lefties to call Republicans names in general but not the conservatives?
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With trying to be cute and yet mindful of CoH.
Teaparty = Authentically displeasing.
Seriously? Your intentions are no different than what Reidy said.
Deb - I don't think you meant to quote this part:
Sally, if this is the rule, then why do I read "all Republicans are idiots" all the time and no one gets banned for it? Reidy didn't attack anyone personally, only made a generalized statement. So is it OK for the lefties to call Republicans names in general but not the conservatives?
- 5 votes
Ouch. That's certainly a smoking gun in my book. Nothing says "hey, if you're centrist or on the right, you're not welcome here" than suspending someone for saying:
#2.3: Do you idiots on the left
...when folks on the left do this each and every day, day in and day out (all over the frigging Vine), without repercussion. Sigh.
Big Sigh. I wanted to believe it wasn't true, honestly.
- 1 vote
Prophat and Deb - can you take that to a meta article please and get back on topic. thanks
- 2 votes
Becuase it's only a violation if it's against the left, not if it's for the left or against the right.
Good grief. It is a violation because it is off topic. No-one got reported it was a polite request. Take the conspiracy theories and the insults off my column and get back on topic please
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Prophat247
"all Republicans are idiots"
Do you idiots on the left.
Do you not see the semantic difference in those statements?
"You Idiots" is the subject of one versus "All Republicans" being the subject of the other.
A fine, yet very distinct line, and s/he got called on it. I'll ignore it cause I've been on enough forums to where I have thick "internet skin", and I don't really think it's that big of a deal, but I don't make that call.
Still, the language is not the same, even if the meanings are similar.
Good grief. It is a violation because it is off topic. No-one got reported it was a polite request. Take the conspiracy theories and the insults off my column and get back on topic please
Sorry Soph...I find semantics interesting.
And good for Cain on being the "authentic black" guy in the presidential race. Don't think it's going to help him though. And it's funny, who knew bing black was good for politics? Hopefully this leads to more and more minorities and people of color running.
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So saying "Do the idiots on the left" would have been OK with you? After all, it's a matter of semantics, right?
I'm not going to derail this seed or argue this anymore with you Smith Cassidy. I'll respect Soph's request. Thanks.
- 2 votes
" Politics has never been for the thin skinned or the faint of heart, and if you enter the arena
you should expect to get roughed up"
Barack Obama May 2010, University of Michigan
Point: If you can't take what you dish out,shut the hell up and sit down!
- 1 vote
douglasq
Hey lets not forget how they lead them into planned parenthood and destroy tens of thousands of black babies every year; then get them hooked on welfare with their free handouts instead of a hand up. Give me a damn break. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MINORITY VOTE.
Sally
The word respect gets thrown around here like the word racist does to the point that it has no meaning. The truth hurts and when lefties get their itty bitty feelings hurt they collapse comments.
- 2 votes
lets not forget how they lead them into planned parenthood and destroy tens of thousands of black babies every year; then get them hooked on welfare with their free handouts instead of a hand up
Such an appallingly inaccurate description. How do you sleep at night?!
I would say that sums the combined unintended consequences of planned parenthood and LBJ's great society.
Even my kind heart do gooder liberal mother can see that.
- 1 vote
Bryan Fisher? Isn't he the spokesperson for the hate group "American Family Association"?
I guess I will listen to what he has to say about the President just after I start listening to what the KKK has to say about blacks, or the American Nazi Party has to say about Jews.
Which means never.
- 27 votes
#3 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:45 PM EDTThe one and only...
He be a shoe in for Hate Monger in Chief if he tried just a leeeeel bit harder.
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#3.2:He be a shoe in for Hate Monger in Chief if he tried just a leeeeel bit harder.
I'm rolling on the floor! Stop it! That's too funny.
- 11 votes
#3.4:Ahh aims t'please ma'am.. Especially the good lady MEG.
I still get a kick when I read "just a leeeel bit harder". A total gas! Keep up the good work!
- 3 votes
This coming from Bryan Fischer. If Cain were to get the republican nomination, Fischer would probably become apoplectic. This is hypocrisy to the highest degree. Fischer is a hate monger and so is his organization, the AFA.
- 22 votes
They have incited violence against the LBGT community. They have spewed all sorts of racially based invective against President Obama and other politicians of color.See the Southern Poverty Law Center reports on hate groups in the USA for more information. Their Spring 2012 issue of their report gives a very detailed description of the hatred coming from the AFA.
- 24 votes
Please give examples of AFA hatred.
Didn't you click the 'Read Article' link?
- 17 votes
Is there a bridge here somewhere? Or a billy goat?
Should have taken that last left at Albuquerque.
- 19 votes
Rachel! I <3 and miss you! How are you doing? *does best Jack Nicholson* Heeere's Johnny!
- 6 votes
#4.7:Should have taken that last left at Albuquerque.
Haven't you heard, they don't make left turns - only rights!
- 10 votes
RedJohn
SPLC never prints without research. Their designations are accurate and documented. Read a few SPLC articles. Strong research, strong proofs, accurate stands. Those that attack SPLC usually are afraid of the truth.
- 12 votes
Son, fine, fine. Just afraid of those that bonos wants to send my way! ;-) How are you?
(((((♥ONS♥)))))
- 6 votes
That's great Rachel! Am fine too. Had some things to take care again of but I'll be back for a while yet.
MEG's always sharp! Good, funny, and exactly right.
Doc... you're right about the SPLC but that won't matter to most of today's "conservative" flock. Their mythology is so deeply ingrained from such intense indoctrination that nothing, and I mean nothing, can break their purified beliefs. You might as well say ACLU or Liberal. Long ago I had a long running and futile dispute with a whole bunch of these types about the meanings of the words Apologist and Appeaser. What I found out was that their conditioning was so complete that their resulting mistaken beliefs were totally unassailable. Dictionary be damned... they NEW what Candidate then President Obama was ALL about.
- 7 votes
#4.16:Doc... you're right about the SPLC but that won't matter to most of today's "conservative" flock. Their mythology is so deeply ingrained from such intense indoctrination that nothing, and I mean nothing, can break their purified beliefs. You might as well say ACLU or Liberal. Long ago I had a long running and futile dispute with a whole bunch of these types about the meanings of the words Apologist and Appeaser
You're absolutely correct: you can save all of your thoughts and/or breath. They won't hear you anyway because their minds are already made up. I stopped trying to sway/convince them LAST YEAR thus saving my sanity and blood pressure!
I realized that just as Cong. Barney Frank stated, it was like "arguing with the dining room table!"
So now I just let them talk to each other. They are all the same!
[btw, thanks for the compliment sweetheart :-)]
- 3 votes
Believing that the SPLC is unbiased simply shows how biased one is.
- 2 votes
They spend three years painting Obama as an outsider, and now he isn't black enough.
- 30 votes
#5 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:05 PM EDTSame old bull@!$%#. First he's black and shouldn't be bringing up his white heritage. Then he's white and shouldn't be pretending to be black. Then he's not "authentically black", he's also not "authentically white". He's Muslim, yet christian, yet neither, yet both....you get the point. The right is frightened out of their whits, knowing Obama will win in 2012.
- 24 votes
#5:They spend three years painting Obama as an outsider, and now he isn't black enough.
Remember we just said they don't know whether to spxxt or go blind! They are totally confused- even among themselves.
- 11 votes
I get it red. Real cute. So what is it you need attention?
I the only fried chicken here is you hick comments
- 3 votes
How can I get my" authetically black certification "from this guy?
- 3 votes
Who painted Obama as an outsider? I thought he was slick full of hot air politician from day one.
- 1 vote
With all the Birther, Bagger, Deather, Collager, BS, Now he is not BLACK enough
- 24 votes
#6 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:12 PM EDTBut he's smart enough, diplomatic enough Calm enough for me. I don't like the republicans agenda and what I see them doing/not doing. I don't care how Black Cain is. Demzel could run on the republican ticket (love him) but I wouldn't vote for him. Trust me a whole lot of people will not vote for Cain because he's black. I'm not impressed and he is not diplomatic enough and he doesn't have America's interest at heart. He sees dollar signs like Sarah and Micheal. It's about the Agenda/Policies Baby. Ryan's Budget plan, Voucher, Union busting, Financial Management, Tax Cuts for Wealthy, and Corporate Welfare does not work for me. Republicans have done absolutely nothing about Jobs, Fixing the Budget and don't intend to. They have done Nothing and continue to wreck havoc on the economy and everything else.
- 9 votes
Interesting! An outsider is been debunked. Now, BSO is not black enough? LOL. There is no end, isn't it? Sorry, SG.
- 11 votes
#8 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:25 PM EDTWell, gee, Michael Steele was too, what did that get the GOP??
Ridiculous.
- 10 votes
#9 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:32 PM EDTAnd when it helps their cause theyll claim Obama is a "thug", or a "chicago gangster". The AFA implying things about our democratic leaders? Never.
- 12 votes
#10 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:36 PM EDTWhen it can be proven, it's not an implication. Obama's first political supporters were Willian Ayres and Bernadine Dorn, admitted domestic terrorists and bombers with the Weather Underground, a subversive group that attempted to bomb the Pentagon and had a guard killed in an armorred car robbery. . Oh yeah, and the felonious Tony Rezco. And then we had the "unhearable" racist "preacher" Jeremiah Wright, screaming hatred for America.
Oh look! It's Hannity. Nobody listen to, or cared about, that crap in 2008 and no one will listen to, or care about, that crap in 2012.
But, go ahead and keep on pushing that crap fro all it's worth.
- 16 votes
Jmorris, cant you imagine redjohns post being narrated by Sean Hannitys whiney little wheasel voice?
- 8 votes
No Red John, He called President a "Gangsta" not a Gangster. He meant it as a compliment don't ya know. He used it in the same monologue where he points out that Republicans claim to be Fiscally Responsible and Strong on Defence, but in fact they have a track record that says neither is true.
In fact the complete quote is "Obama is one efficient steely nerved multitasking black ninja gangsta president".
Now Red John, go tuck yourself under that bridge and wait for Billy Goat Gruff.
- 14 votes
Reliant, dont blame redjohn. Baggers dont understand humor.
- 8 votes
#10.7:Reliant, dont blame redjohn. Baggers dont understand humor.
Nor slang! :-)
- 2 votes
" unlike Herman Cain, who is, Fischer asserts, "authentically black":
Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black and who cares, I've said it before, President Obama isn't a black President, he an American President. Only Republican bring race in to the race, an overwhelming sign of racism.
- 18 votes
#12 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:52 PM EDTI am a big supporter of Herman Cain, even before a lot of people knew he was planning to run. He is my guy for 2012.
I do not care what color he is, it is people like him that our founders envisioned would serve in public office, not corrupt career politicians.
- 9 votes
#14 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:56 PM EDTMark, are you serious?
Our founders envisioned the likes of Mr. Cain serving as unpaid chattel slaves, and nothing more.
- 11 votes
Caroaber, are you serious?
Is race what Marks comment is about, yours does seem to be about it though.
He would be the republicans first Black presidential candidate of course it would be the democrats second, Obama and then Clinton as the First Black President
- 3 votes
Mark
Your man? Did you work at one of his pizza carry out joints? He like every otter republican is a millionaire.
Who profited by heavy borrowing an bad working conditions and very low wages. He sold his pizza places to meet a margin call on his business. The major reason he sold was because the democratic raised the minimum wage after 10 years.
Any retail food service business plan survived on low wages and cheap ingredients. So don't make a claim he is self made. He's just another capitalist that screwed the consumer.
- 7 votes
Mark, he has no clue on foreign policy, just like all Republicans.
So, go a head, support another Republican idiot.
- 7 votes
No substance just name calling.
Obama had no experience at doing anything at all.
I forgot there are no millionaire Democrats they all come from working class blue color roots. Do your homework. just the opposite is true.
Cain is a self made man. No hand outs or hand ups, no something to hang your hat on. I respect that.
More importantly I truly hope he gets the nomination by a grass roots landslide, then we can but the myth that all GOP or non-Democrats and liberals are racists.
- 5 votes
#14.8:Obama had no experience at doing anything at all.
But gwb did! Look where it got us. ta-da!
- 3 votes
Really. My father who pulled himself out extreme poverty without government aid and is now a wealthy man.
Me whom my father thought I would really learn to respect others or the meaning of a dollar unless I did on my own cut me off at the age of 21.
I was able to make and lose two fortunes so far. I hope I can hold on the the third.
First one was wiped out when a had a near fatal car wreck.
Second one in a nasty divorce, and could only work part time while I raised my daughters as a single Dad.
Now I am making a come back now that they are teenagers.
I am a self taught software and netwrok engineer.
I had a brief Military stint.
I put many self through college and have multiple degrees.
Passed the hardest professinoal exam in the country.
Other than a short Air Force stint I have never worked for anybody but myself.
I have done quit well I think. Despite being
Legally deaf.
Partially paralyzed.
I live with chronic pain and Migraines.
I have permenat brain damage that affects my speech and writing abilities.
I have an impairment similar to dyslexia.
I have never received government assistance, I do accept tribal benefits on behalf of my children and myself but that is set aside for them and their education.
So who got me where I am today?
So you can see I have little sympathy for the poor pitiful me, bitch whine and moan crowd, life gave me a crappy hand. Boo Hoo!
- 4 votes
Great! I fervently hope that Cain wins the republican nomination. Not only will I get to see all those heads exploding in the racist wing of the republibaggerservative coalition, black people (me included) also get to squash the nonsense of us casting votes based on race when we go 95% AGAINST the "authentically" black republican nominee.
With every worthless and absurd statement, Bryan Fischer and his ilk prove just how hopelessly stuck in stupid they are.
- 13 votes
#16 - Mon May 23, 2011 6:08 PM EDTdwillie --- Seldom do you and I agree, but on this I am with you.
- 4 votes
I mean, President Obama celebrating his Irish heritage, I mean there is just something about that I just find, I just find that comical, frankly.
What would that be? someone let me in on the joke
- 7 votes
#18 - Mon May 23, 2011 6:12 PM EDTI guess you would also find it hard for my son and daughter to celebrate there African heritage unless you saw them next to there mom, but then you would probably think that they were from a previous marriage and that i ran off with the nanni.
We get a lot of looks from both black and whites, funny thing is black people women have actual come up and asked her if the kids were hers..... now that takes big brass ones if you ask me.
Mean while whites just look in disgust.
IMO that your problem not mine.
- 4 votes
#18:What would that be? someone let me in on the joke
I'm waiting for the punch-line too. I don't understand how that is funny either! I can even see the humour- is there supposed to be some- somewhere-anywhere?
The guy who is saying this is the real JOKE- only he doesn't know it yet!
- 9 votes
#18.1:We get a lot of looks from both black and whites, funny thing is black people women have actual come up and asked her if the kids were hers..... now that takes big brass ones if you ask me. Mean while whites just look in disgust.
It does take a lot of gall - and stupidity- to do this. The same thing happens to my daughter in law all the time! I am sad for her and I let these ignoramuses have it back too.
I understand and agree with you fully.
- 7 votes
We get a lot of looks from both black and whites, funny thing is black people women have actual come up and asked her if the kids were hers..... now that takes big brass ones if you ask me.
I saw on 20/20 once where this black family had twin boys. One was brown skined and the other was Albino. They got the same crazy looks. SADDEST part was when the boys say people (of all types) try to tell them they arent brothers.
- 6 votes
What this asshat fails to realize is that people are perfectly capable of being both black and white at the same time. There is not such thing as "authentic" black, just as there is not "inauthentic" black. I am both black and Hispanic and do not need people like Bryan Fischer determining which part of me is "authentic" and which is not.
- 12 votes
#20 - Mon May 23, 2011 6:19 PM EDTIt all comes down to
"The Color Complex: The Politics of Skin Color Among African Americans"
or if you don't want to read
"SchoolDaZE" BY Spike Lee
But then again there are some who will not read or watch and claim it does not exist, and that statement will come from people of all races.
- 2 votes
#22 - Mon May 23, 2011 6:34 PM EDTActually. I want to listen to Herman Cain a bit more.He seems to have a bit of a clue and I want to see more of what he is about.
Fischer should be quiet.
- 6 votes
#24 - Mon May 23, 2011 6:39 PM EDTHerman Cain in 2012! I really like that he believes in empowerment instead of entitlement. His father was a chauffeur and his mother a maid, he didn't sit back and say I deserve this and I deserve that just because he was black. He worked hard, studied hard, and applied himself and is a self made success. He is exactly what this country is in need of and a great example for anyone that if you work hard and apply yourself, you too can be successful. That is the American Dream and the youth of our society need to be reminded of that. There are way to many families that are dependent on the government because they have been told by too many democratic politicians that you can't be successful, you need this entitlement and we will take care of you. This is the way the dems by votes. Cain is a breath of fresh air and the dems are scared of him so they must go ahead and start the bashing. By the way, Cain has my vote and I am a white female.
- 3 votes
So what,his mother was a maid.The guy's still lacking in the knowledge it takes to be President.We're now voting because what he parents did? Cain"s story is no different than many here in America,black and white.Nothing special about that.
- 5 votes
Barack Obama wasn't exactly Rockafeller, but he worked hard and did well for himself and his family. How can you say that he's been entitled? I see his life as empowering himself, his wife, and his kids.
- 8 votes
Rahlly, he may have not been entitled, but he sure wants to make the rest of America feel like they are entitled instead of empowering them to get out and work. The democrats want to keep extending unemployment to people, but I bet when it runs out, they will have no problem getting a job. Some people would rather stay on welfare than take a job and seems like the liberals have no problem with that. IMO if you are offered a job and do not take it, whatever government entitlement you get should be immediately taken away.
Chitownty, That is what I am talking about. Cain has proven that through hard work you can make something of yourself instead of sitting on your rear and expecting someone to take care of you. I am from the south and here I see way to many people complaining that they didn't ask to be born so it's someone else's responsibility to take care of them, and mostly the democrat politicians tell them that they are right, they don't have to try, the govenment will take care of them. By doing this, the dems are buying votes. Cain just wants to instill a sense of self worth to this type of person by saying, yes you can do anything if you set your mind to it and work hard to achieve it. In other words, don't take no for an answer, if there is a will, there is a way!
- 2 votes
Really, he wants every American to feel entitled rather than work for their own?!!! You believe that? The man who pushed for people to contribute community service just wants people to sit around? The man who pushed for money to fix the INFRASTRUCTURE just sits back?
::Shaking head:: What's sad is you say this despite every evidence to the contrary.
- 6 votes
Rahlly, he may have not been entitled, but he sure wants to make the rest of America feel like they are entitled instead of empowering them to get out and work. The democrats want to keep extending unemployment to people, but I bet when it runs out, they will have no problem getting a job. Some people would rather stay on welfare than take a job and seems like the liberals have no problem with that. IMO if you are offered a job and do not take it, whatever government entitlement you get should be immediately taken away.
This is laughable. You do realize that the MOST successful "get people back to work programs" are city based, and their first line of funding comes from the surrounding community; THEN the state, then the federal government. The Full Employment Council in Kansas City, MO gets most of its founds from the community. Most recently a $400,000 check from the KANSAS CITY Sports Authority along with the Kansas City Chiefs and Royals. This community sponsored agency has been around since before Obama even thought about being president and will be around after his term is up. THESE are the types of agencies that foster job creatation, NOT presidents. Obama didnt convince Ford to stay in the KCMO area, FEC and other members of the surrounding community did. Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan didnt generate jobs when the shyt hit the fan. These agencies worked to garner the funds needed to provide internships to young people, and job training so that people could retain jobs, train for new career fields and get off public assistance.
- 4 votes
Then why is it when someone disagrees with Obama hes a rqacist?
- 4 votes
#25 - Mon May 23, 2011 6:45 PM EDTThen why is it when someone disagrees with Obama hes a rqacist?
Or if they're outright lying of said claim...
http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2011/mar/06/kenneth-mckay/mckay-says-sen-whitehouse-said-senate-floor-everyb/ (McKay says Sen. Whitehouse said on the Senate floor: “Everybody in Rhode Island who disagrees with me about Obamacare is an Aryan, is a white supremacist.”)
- 8 votes
Ummmm I doubt that he is all-black. Every black person in this country unless they came straight from Africa has something else in their veins. Whether through rape in the slave times or mixing elsewhere, none of us are "all-black". Not even me.
- 9 votes
#26 - Mon May 23, 2011 7:01 PM EDTDang, Rahily, I hadn't read your post when I typed mine. I should have added Indian blood in my post. I guess it's pretty doubtful that he has Asian blood, but you never know.
- 6 votes
I have white, and pretty sure NA, but I am considered black. But truthfully, no black person in the USA unless they have come straight from Africa and their ancestors never lived anywhere else can be "all-black"!
True, you never know. I remember a Discovery special in which they traced by DNA the genetic lineage of like 100 people, and it turned out that his black guy was jewish, another guy thought he was a wasp turned out he had asian and black. Just what you look like is no guarantee.
- 12 votes
Rahlly, right! I was thinking of those documentaries when responding to you--not only on Discovery, but PBS.
- 3 votes
none of us are "all-black".
And none of us are all white as the seed of civilization originated in Ethiopia.
- 4 votes
Perhaps those of us who are not "all black" are merely faded.
- 2 votes
How do you define "authentically black"? At one time, the one-drop rule applied down here. Can Cain demonstrate that he does not have one drop of white blood?
- 11 votes
#27 - Mon May 23, 2011 7:09 PM EDTCan Cain demonstrate that he does not have one drop of white blood?
Cain doesnt have to demonstrate anything...he didnt say it.
Obama didn't say he wasn't born in America either.....
I want a long form blood test...
- 8 votes
It, were you saying the same thing about Obama's BC? After all, he didn't claim to be a foreigner, did he?
- 3 votes
My candidate is blacker than yours...nanny nanny boo boo!!
- 13 votes
#28 - Mon May 23, 2011 7:24 PM EDTMaybe they used a similar nanny-nanny booboo thought process when the GOPbags made their inspired(lol) choice of Palin when Hillary ran...
- 5 votes
Maybe they used a similar nanny-nanny booboo thought process when the GOPbags made their inspired(lol) choice of Palin when Hillary ran...
And we all know that was an EPIC FAIL!
- 6 votes
And we all know that was an EPIC FAIL!
We can all hope for a new GOPbag trend... Failing everyone BEFORE they get in office. Wouldn't THAT be nice??
- 4 votes
Dear Mr. Fischer,
When looking into your own genetic back ground. You will undoubtedly find alternative genes that will throw your whole perception of what race you are, in a tailspin. Even if it's just a drop, as what was implied in this country's history not so long ago. Just a matter of donating blood to check. Care to try, then post it for the world to see. Since family history seems to mean so little to you, as compared to race.
- 6 votes
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