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Joe Lieberman has always been a great pioneer for internet freedom. Last year, he suggested that the United States should implement an internet kill switch in the event of a cyberattack by taking its cues from China. Now Lieberman is calling for the world’s most popular search engine to censor material that could potentially be used to spread terrorist information.
Lieberman sent a letter to Google CEO Larry Pageasking the company to implement a system where users can report websites harboring terrorism and Google will remove them from their Blogger platform.
Sen. Joe Lieberman Wants Google To Let Users Flag 'Terrorist Content'
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From the letter:
“Google sets its own standards for materials allowable on its servers. Through your updated YouTube standards, Google has affirmatively stated that terrorist content will not be permitted on some of your sites. I strongly believe that Google should expand that standard to include your other platforms. The private sector plays an important role in protecting our homeland from the preeminent threat of violent Islamist extremism, and Google’s inconsistent standards are adversely affecting our ability to counter violent Islamist extremism online.”
These kinds of policy decisions are almost always carried out subjectively, and if Google is given carte blanche to censor material they think could potentially influence terrorists, who knows what Blogger pages they would target.
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#1 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:48 AM EST
Can I use this system to flag Biden's letter as terrorist content?
Because it sure scares the bejesus out of me!
- 8 votes
Just glad Lieberman's no longer Democrat. Don't have to make excuses for his ill conceived ideas.
Google isn't CIA, they don't know what's terrorist. Could be nonsense, could be terrorist plot.
In WWII, best way to transmit info to saboteurs was coded phrases in regular programs. Unless you're expert in terrorist communications, you'll never know.
All Google can do is cause hassle to net.
- 12 votes
Sure on Bidens letter
if I can also ban the Tea Party.org page and all other ultra conservative,religious spewing hate web pages also as terrorist content web pages
- 9 votes
How about tracking terrorist banter of the gnopee. They continue to rant against the US Constitution every day!
- 6 votes
Well hell we could just shut down the whole internet completely forever...... on 2nd thought what would we all do all day and night without a place to sit and comment on world events..... then again, yea just shut it all down.
- 3 votes
I'm pretty sure Lieberman doesn't understand how the internet works.
If you can find it online, you can forward the information to the FBI, CIA or NSA. That's as easy as writing an email.
Plus, making a button someone can push to accuse a thing online of being terrorism would immediately backfire as literally every webpage on the internet became targeted by terrorism reports.
The only thing left would be pictures of puppies and kittens and possibly a few pictures of chocolate cake.
- 7 votes
It would be hilarious if gop.com (note: its a .com rather than a .org or .gov, which is accurate in my view) could get flagged as a terrorist organization.
- 7 votes
Mr Lieberman, as much as he calls himself an Independent
would take our rights away no different than the Tea Party/Party of NO
Can't we get this guy out of Congress? When is it time up for his seat?
Mr Lieberman doesn't understand how the Internet really works, and I don't WANT HIM TO.
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Rick_Parry_Sux--
of course you can flag frightwing republican lies-- what is more detrimental to our fundamental democracy than this hierarchy-worshiping, money-grubbing, anti-civil rights, constitution shredding, gun-slinging, ignorant group of terrorist wanna-bees?
- 4 votes
We have more than enough paranoia, mudslinging, crass sensationalism, officially sanctioned informing and fanaticism in American society, and we are under quite enough surveillance and under quite enough pressure as it is, thank you.
Do we really need to raise the lid of the vampire's sarcophagus any further than it already has been?
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Republicans would probably be unhappy if this were to be enacted. How many sites and groups for the Religious Reich are there that could be immediately reported, starting with groups like WBC?
- 3 votes
Forget the fringe groups... even mainstream normal sites would get reported... RNC.com RNC.org, etc... FoxNews.com... JoeLiebermanReelection.org (I'd probably flag that one myself, just for the hell of it)...
- 1 vote
McCarthyism alive and attempting to propagate yet again.
By the way, Soph! I am remiss! After commenting on a thread here and a thread there of yours lately, usually early in the a.m., I am remiss in saying,
Good Mornin'! And I hope all is well with you and yours these days!
(*earlygrins*!)
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#2 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:57 AM ESTGood Mornin'! And I hope all is well with you and yours these days!
Well it is now afternoon. But Good morning back and yes everything is good with me and mine! thanks:-)
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McCarthyism alive and attempting to propagate yet again
Might be something about the almost public-domain status of the name 'Joe' that leads an ordinary-joe to one extreme or another. eh? Just like one should never combine the names Earl and Ray in any form when bestowing a moniker upon one's precious newborn!
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Um, QuiteContrary, I really don't understand your post. I think I get what you're saying, but not quite sure.
Just as a "sidebar", I've got two very good friends named Ray, one named for his father, the other a grandfather, and I'm pretty sure neithers' parents were using their political wherewithal as a barometer or benchmark for naming their kids. (*grin*!)
I even have an old friend named Adolph, again for a grandfather, the family are Austrian Jews by heritage. Smuggled out of Germany in a suitcase when he was two years old. Long since retired Math teacher.
I don't know anyone named Earl tho! ROFL!
Well, this is one of the worst ideas I have heard lately -- among a boatload of really bad ideas. Can you imagine? People will be seeing terrorism everywhere. Augur Well is right; this is an attempt to return to the McCarthyism of the fifties and anyone who looks at that period with an objective eye can see how well that worked out. /sarc
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#3 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:18 AM ESTHi Holly, and thanks!
Yep, that's how this observer sees it. The right to due process, the right to confront your accuser, right down the toilet. Rat on your friends, neighbors, even family where you think you see a red/terrorist/whatever paranoia. With no recriminations whatsoever. Bad enough in McCarthy's time, with the internet as impersonal and hidden as it is today, the patriotic will now be able to wave their fingers a world away!
All in the name of "patriotism". Ben Franklin called it the last refuge of scoundrels. How apropos....
(*dispicablegrins*!)
- 4 votes
Right, Auger. Perhaps they can even teach the kiddies to click on their parents --- when they're not scrubbing out school toilets, that is. What a world they would wrought!
- 1 vote
An Internet Kill Switch like they have in China. Why are our elected, and candidates to be elected, want us to be like China? China, is a country where civil liberties do not exist and women and children are exploited.
- 8 votes
#4 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:22 AM ESTWell, you heard Bachmann -- she wants America to be more capitalistic -- like China.
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The road to good intentions is strewn with innocent casualties
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#5 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:32 AM ESTWhy do I get the sneaky suspicion that "undercover" CIA websites that pose as terrorist sites to snare real terrorists will be among those casualties?
On the other hand, I rarely don't enjoy any opportunity to piss on the CIA's corn flakes either... lol. But I think in this case, that's one tactic that I don't have a problem with, so, yeah, it'd probably shut that program down and then we'd miss critical information that would stop the next attack. Generally speaking, pushing terrorists further underground isn't a good tactic for spying on them... just my thought.
- 2 votes
Anyone with a gripe with anybody can then easily have the state pay special attention to the individual with the click of a mouse - 21st century witch hunts and inquisitions. The only product some of these Neocons produce is fear.
- 4 votes
#6 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:22 AM ESTIf this works anything like many of their other brillant ideas, any real terrorists will be unaffected and the only people being censored & harassed will be the usual casualties of another of our government's harebrained plans.
- 4 votes
#7 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:23 AM ESTStupid. So many sites would be flagged that it would take an entire army of people to sift through them. What's to stop some goofball from flagging thousands of sites as a prank? Nothing.
- 3 votes
#8 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:45 AM ESTLet's make a list of sites that would be flagged right off the bat...
lol
I could have fun with this...
- 3 votes
wow.
Is this kinda like that cord that any passenger could pull in old trains that would apply the brakes? That was a bad idea then, still is now.
- 4 votes
#9 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:50 AM ESTI would search every republican, independent and yellow dog democrat political official in the country and flag them as a terrorist. That includes you too, Joe Lieberman. I wonder how he would like that.
- 4 votes
#10 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:04 AM ESTDo Islamic extremists post in English much?
I think if I were looking for Islamic Terror websites that I wouldn't spend a whole heck of a lot of resources on languages that Islamic terrorists don't speak. They tend to speak Arabic, and so that's where I'd be looking if I were inclined to surf the web for the latest greatest Allah Akbar crap.
Besides, wouldn't we WANT these guys on the internet? I mean, if they're stupid enough to put their terrorist plans in plain sight, then have at it pal! Put down what size prison jumpsuit you wear so we can have it for you in central booking too!
As for the "bomb plans" used by Jose Pimentel, did you get a load of that joke of a bomb? The idiot hooked wires up to a box of matches and a battery! It wouldn't even have worked, and on the off chance that it did, it wouldn't have had the explosive force of a balloon popping. A bowl of Rice Crispies would have a worse Snap, Crackle and Pop than that pathetic device.
I'm of the completely opposite opinion than Senator Lieberman. If our enemies are going to be stupid, then by all means, let them be stupid.
- 1 vote
#11 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:06 AM ESTSet up hundreds of proxies, and flag foxnews.com over, and over, and over, and over
until they end the system, or shut down foxnews.com
- 9 votes
#12 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:06 AM ESTDo Islamic extremists post in English much?
Don't know that they do. But Islamaphobes, unquestionably do!
- 3 votes
Why would the mouthy and self-centered Liebnerschmuck bother with Google when he can run back to the open arms of another GOP convention. He is such an unworthy and complete political whore!
- 5 votes
#13 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:41 AM ESTIf Pimental had used a library, would Lieberman want to close libraries?
- 2 votes
#17 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:21 AM ESTActually, all republicans want to close libraries. For one thing, they are part of the common weal, and republicans want to eliminate the common weal. For another, libraries are the seat of Marxist thought. For example, they carry such pinko commie books as Catcher in the Rye and Childhood's End. Then too, libraries give away for free stuff their capitalist cronies could profit on. Moreover, how can it be fair when the poor and middle class have the same access to information as they do? Also too, they hate book larnin' in general -- which is why, for example, one of their attacking points against Elizabeth Warren is that she's a (yuck!) professor.
- 2 votes
do you remember the movie, "psycho"? if so, you should also remember that one scene, the shower scene, shows no actual violence. hitchcock used the viewers' minds to create the terror we felt. inner terror, that terror that we imagine, is sometimes more real than we suspect. lieberman, like giuliani and others, is using the same tactic. why? real concern over terrorism, maybe. publicity, perhaps. maybe, just maybe, he is using it to maintain his seat in the senate.
- 6 votes
#18 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:27 AM ESTmaybe, just maybe, he is using it to maintain his seat in the senate.
Him and lot more republicans. I know he claims to be an independent and votes with the Democratic Caucus, but face it, he's a republican.
- 4 votes
Thanks Joe. Always wanted to be more like China.
I don't blame Lieberman as much as I blame those who elect him again and again. Those are the ones who's sanity I question.
- 3 votes
#19 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:47 AM ESTThis is a great idea. We could have everybody watch everybody else. Brown shirts could be distributed to everybody, including children. Why didn't anyone ever think of this before? /s/
- 8 votes
#20 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:17 AM ESTgoogle is a search engine not an arm of the intelligence community. let's keep it that way.
- 2 votes
#21 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:04 PM ESTThis gesture would be for the sake of Israel but at our expense. No Thanks.
- 2 votes
#22 - Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:54 PM ESTI'd flag everything from the Tea people, breitbart, fox, westboro baptist, all white supremacy groups, wnd, coulter, palin, rove, cheney...
- 5 votes
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