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Condescending White Forbes Writer Pens 'If I Was A Poor Black Kid'

Seeded on Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:05 AM EST
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“Even a poor black kid in West Philadelphia” can succeed in “2011,” Marks writes, as if he’s a volunteer at the local Boys and Girls Club.

Marks writes:

If I was a poor black kid I would first and most importantly work to make sure I got the best grades possible. I would make it my #1 priority to be able to read sufficiently. I wouldn’t care if I was a student at the worst public middle school in the worst inner city. Even the worst have their best. And the very best students, even at the worst schools, have more opportunities. Getting good grades is the key to having more options. With good grades you can choose different, better paths. If you do poorly in school, particularly in a lousy school, you’re severely limiting the limited opportunities you have.

Those down-on-their-luck black kids of West Philadelphia must thank Marks for these chestnuts of wisdom.

It’s mind-boggling in the way that Marks completely ignores all external factors — that these kids won’t have to overcome any obstacles relating to their race, just buckling down.

 

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But here’s the kicker in his piece — Marks then lectures them to know how to turn on their computers:

If I was a poor black kid I’d use the free technology available to help me study. I’d become expert at Google Scholar. I’d visit study sites like SparkNotes and CliffsNotes to help me understand books. I’d watch relevant teachings on Academic Earth, TED and the Khan Academy. (I say relevant because some of these lectures may not be related to my work or too advanced for my age. But there are plenty of videos on these sites that are suitable to my studies and would help me stand out.) I would also, when possible, get my books for free at Project Gutenberg and learn how to do research at the CIA World Factbook and Wikipedia to help me with my studies.

Marks ignores that many of these urban school districts suffer from serious economic shortfalls and red tape. Many lack the essential resources necessary to help kids of all races succeed. As a quick aside — SparkNotes? Really? Come on, when I was a high schooler, I used those as slacker tools, not because I genuinely wanted to learn the material.

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Reply#1 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:33 AM EST
don-72

I suspect that any poor kid can succeed if they have the right motivation But I also suspect they do not for a lot of reasons. Some may make it on there own but that is a rare kid.

Most of us have had some help along the way. A family that cares or a teacher who inspires us to do our best.

Marks sounds like he has had all of that and more who like a lot of people thinks every one has the same opportunitieshe he did. Reality can be very different.

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#1.1 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:05 AM EST
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Plantsmantx

Here's a very good response to the Forbes post:

http://www.dominionofnewyork.com/2011/12/13/if-i-were-the-middle-class-white-guy-gene-marks/2/#.Tuoco7LTrAV

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Reply#2 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:14 AM EST
NC Slim

Marks is a fool. His article is part of the GOP conspiracy tool kit. The latest propaganda effort is painting black kids as slackers and idiots. Frightened whites will believe all African Americans are lazy and stupid. The voters will make that mental leap: black kids, black president. It’s the same trick tried by Newt. Gingrich said poor children in urban areas should become apprentice janitors. What next, right-wingers? Cotton picking?

Seriously, if Marks and the tin foil hat crowd are so concerned about the children of West Philadelphia or West Jablip--how about creating quality jobs, paying good wages and benefits. Then throw in adequate, affordable housing. And, let’s not forget decent schools, stocked with the necessary tools for success--computers, broadband access, qualified & caring teachers in a safe environment.

I guess Marks wants to keep working for the former Republican candidate for president(1996, 2000 primaries), Steve Forbes.

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Reply#3 - Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:00 AM EST
jay vee-4211468

Marks must be an illiterate. Clearly, he isn’t a reader or he’d know illiteracy has long been used as a way to control access to power. Slaves were blocked from learning to read or write before, during and after the Civil War. Nothing has changed. The elite perpetuate a system , which assures there will always be an underclass, IMO.

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Reply#4 - Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:06 PM EST
wcalvin

We are about to enter the beginning of a ‘period of discourse’ for mind and heart engagement by age groups from the Silents, Baby Boomers to the Millennials. I am a black 56-year old educator for over 20 years with nothing to prove “cracked knuckled” to Kelly Virella or troller, Gene Marks. I wasn’t offended by the Marks article because frankly…to few people in America will actually “break-out from silos” to offer children comprehensive “how-to” insights black or white. This, certainly shows up in our neighborhood schools and national assessments. In fact we need for and organized effort brining 50-people from different socioeconomic and racial dispositions to tell our children black white, Hispanic, Asia, Native America they care enough to address them with a concept map of how to negotiate America. I would ‘beg’ anyone reading our topical issues to find out the last time a kid had the attention of an American adult on road mapping any suggestions for a positive future utilizing accessible technologies and attitudes. I am almost 60 trying to figure out how to build a positive online learning system as powerful technologically as GrandTheft Auto. There… is a place for addressing prolific advocacy and honorable mentions. In my black community there is in fact student achievement. There is also apathy which to me is expressed in our young males and some females sagging. Sagging to me is reflective of a disposition that [we the people] as adult free-to-impact our kids are all full of ourselves. It is also a sign that few well- meaning and rhetorical-well-meaning people have engaged the true needs of extraordinary and talented youth. Yah, I say God Bless America –because it is the socioeconomic experiment -- that we must continue to control with a self-determination and a pluralistic maturity. I think we need to sure up agenda and ideology and then team-up and grow up about discourse or the plight of our youth remains the same while we sit basking in ideological parlors!

    Reply#5 - Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:48 AM EST
    NC Slim

    I wish folks would stop buying into the “culture of poverty.” It is bull@!$%#. No one will admit that educators, politicians and every friggin’ person in the world makes distinctions based on class and economics. Do you really think African-American kids and their parents want to be poor? Where are the studies about hardworking (2 or 3 jobs), black families and their very ordinary kids? I never see analysis about the strengths of urban students despite the lack of tools given innercity youth.

    Okay. Drugs and alcoholism are big problems. However, whites get a pass and never miss a beat. They don’t even go to jail. They are not described as “lacking the work ethic,” “ignoring opportunities.” The “bridge/tunnel” kids drive into the city looking for pot or to drink. They are not busted, taken on a perp walk, or sent to prison for years.

    The short list of the forgiven(drugs/alcohol abusers):

    • George W. Bush
    • Richard Nixon
    • Betty Ford
    • Ann Richards
    • Ted Kennedy
    • Joseph McCarthy
    • Jackson Pollock
    • Anthony Hopkins
    • Robert Downey, Jr.
    • John Belushi
    • Angelina Jolie
    • Marilyn Monroe
    • Diane Arbus
    • Casey Johnson
    • Diana Churchill
    • Eric Clapton
    • Johnny Cash
    • Keith Urban
    • Heath Ledger
    • River Phoenix

    Even in death--some get their props, are never stereotyped.

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    #5.1 - Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:14 PM EST
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