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Who Cares What The Bishops Think? Old Catholic Guys Do.

Seeded on Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:39 AM EST
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The last few days have seen a lot of moaning and wailing from certain liberal pundits (E.J. Dionne and Mark Shields chief among them) who are Deeply Concerned that the fracas over Obama's contraception policies is going to somehow derail the Catholic Democratic vote. 

Never mind (as many worthy writers have pointed out) that 99% of married American Catholic couples already use contraception. The real worry, in their minds, is that it's bad politics to piss off the bishops, whom they quaintly believe still have tremendous cultural sway over the Catholic faithful. And yet Dionne and Shields and their fellow concern trolls are being taken very, very seriously by the Very Serious people.

There's a huge disconnect here that begs for an explanation. So I'll offer one. 

 

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It's not only that the liberal Catholic pundits who are presuming to speak with concern about what this will do to "the Catholic vote" are all male. It may also be important that they're all men who are over 60, who were therefore products of a much more restrictive pre-Vatican II church. And it seems possible that they're still carrying the Church of their childhoods in their minds -- and that this 1950s memory is the Catholicism that, on some level, they're really talking about.

It's not hard to imagine they're still carrying the morality as it was laid down to them by the nuns and priests as boys -- the Madonna/whore stuff, the big squick about anything sexual, and the sense of overweening power and infallibility of the church hierarchy.

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Reply#1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:39 AM EST
Amanda Blue

The article was too funny! Men preferring the Donna Reed type even though they want to boink every woman that smiles at them. It seems to me Catholic men want a 'Mom type' at home baking them cookies while they continue to act out like bad boys knowing if they confess to a priest all will be forgiven. It's a Wonderful Life indeed!

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Reply#2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:52 PM EST
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