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̵'Top GOP Senator' To ABC News: If Romney Loses Michigan, 'He Will Publicly Call' For Jeb Bush

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For those out there loving the current Republican race but worrying that it has become somewhat orthodox in appearance and stable in candidates and support numbers, fear not: ABC News’Jonathan Karl has the blind item for you. In the most mysterious and, for the GOP, worrisome dispatch on the Republican field in a while, Karl reports that a “prominent Republican senator” told him that the Party will not stand for a Mitt Romney loss in Michigan, and that he expects a result like that to lead the Senator to “publicly call for the party to find a new candidate,” likely former Florida Governor Jeb Bush.

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What is news in this dispatch, however, is that the Senator does not think it is too late to throw the entire GOP field out and just call for Jeb Bush to run:

“If Romney cannot win Michigan, we need a new candidate,” said the senator, who has not endorsed anyone and requested anonymity.
The senator believes Romney will ultimately win in Michigan but says he will publicly call for the party to find a new candidate if he does not.

“We’d get killed,” the senator said if Romney manages to win the nomination after he failed to win the state in which he grew up.
“He’d be too damaged,” he said. “If he can’t even win in Michigan, where his family is from, where he grew up.”

It would have to be somebody else, the senator said. Who? “Jeb Bush,” the former Florida governor.

  • 21 votes
#1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:32 AM EST
Happily BLUE in Ohio

Yeah, the nation needs another Bush just like it needs another recession!

Whatever makes the party think that Jub would be a viable candidate???

But I love the fact that these clowns can't field a candidate for love nor money--even all the Koch's money!

  • 56 votes
#1.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:18 AM EST
Chris-735081

Oy vey. Wow!

This primary has been like watching a seven car head-on collision in slow motion.

  • 48 votes
#1.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:47 AM EST
BD Styers

w-o-o-a-h-h-r-r-g-g-h-h!!! *crash*

  • 20 votes
#1.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:48 AM EST
MaryEllen Galloway

#1.1:But I love the fact that these clowns can't field a candidate for love nor money--even all the Koch's money

Oh I love that play on words!

  • 31 votes
#1.4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:53 AM EST
MaryEllen Galloway

#1.2:in slow motion.

And I do mean S_L_O_W!

  • 23 votes
#1.5 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:55 AM EST
BD Styers

Titanic slow

  • 12 votes
#1.6 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:59 AM EST
HappyToSeeYa

the ABC news guy reported gossip

  • 6 votes
#1.7 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:07 AM EST
WaltUU

No, they reported what an unnamed source insinuated to them, something which has been a mainstay of respectable and respect-worthy journalism for ages.

  • 13 votes
#1.8 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:39 AM EST
o'stephanie

I have been dreading this for months since they began this circus. THey have planned it so Jeb will be untouched from the dirty primaries and will not receive full scrutiny.

Trust them not.

  • 41 votes
#1.9 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:44 AM EST
WaltUU

Yeah I was worried about that too, but by the same token, it would be far easier to paint Jeb Bush with the "Bush did this" brush than to paint, say, Romney with that brush. As long as Obama is running against Romney, it is significantly effective to use the rejoinder that the President isn't running against GWB, when highlighting that the Great Recession was GWB's fault, but with Jeb Bush as the candidate, that rejoinder would have a lot less impact.

  • 16 votes
#1.10 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:48 AM EST
Studiusbagus

I think Obama saw that coming.

Notice the recent weeks of calculated news, The Church/ birth control trap, the upcoming budget trap, Harry's threat to either act on appointments or there will be recess appointments.

These are meant to expose the whole party sector by sector and use the news, probably the most believable source, much better than a paid advertisement.

So, now the party is painted and it won't matter who they "Call For", it's the party connection that will screw the candidate.

  • 23 votes
#1.11 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:22 AM EST
Ripley8

call for Bush ?

lmfao !

gotta love the rights insanity.

  • 22 votes
#1.12 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:23 AM EST
Thinknaboutit

In that case even W. would vote for Obama.

  • 17 votes
#1.13 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:39 AM EST
Coral Atlas

After the Florida fiasco with the Bushes .... nothing surprises me when it comes to GOTP politics.

They are intentionally brewing a perfect storm and using PAC money to stir the pot and manipulate the ingredients.

Although a candidate with the last name Bush would be anathema in my opinion ... the idea that they will pull a rabbit out of the hat has been in the back of my mind all along.

GOTP money is pulling all the strings behind the scenes for the first time ever .... and the choreographers are those who meet in secret with the Koch brothers.

  • 23 votes
#1.14 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:43 AM EST
reddirthippy

hmm Ellis as president, maybe his daddy can cry him into running.

Maybe he can follow in the family footsteps and help those like bin laden family to hide its assets.

  • 7 votes
#1.15 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:03 AM EST
determined0a1

THey have planned it so Jeb will be untouched from the dirty primaries and will not receive full scrutiny.

Jeb has been received more inside out scrutiny than the Dems candidates.

  • 2 votes
#1.16 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:29 AM EST
WaltUU

No he hasn't.

  • 24 votes
#1.17 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:30 AM EST
Zoolopolis

I thought GOP was going for by in 2012.

Why all the top shelf candidates sat it out.

They knew econ was going to be bad for a few years. Let Democrats take the blame. Then swoop in to claim recovery in 2016.

Hopefully, GOP tears itself apart this year. Then we can have Biden succeed Obama.

  • 12 votes
#1.18 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:37 AM EST
CCArm

Then we can have Biden Warren succeed Obama.

Now doesn't that sound better Zoo?

  • 17 votes
#1.19 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:39 AM EST
Thinknaboutit

They knew econ was going to be bad for a few years. Let Democrats take the blame. Then swoop in to claim recovery in 2016.

That may have been their plan before their obstruction failed and the economy started picking up. Their backup plan of thinning out the lower income voters is still in full swing though. Now they are hoping that voter suppresion along with the fright-wing propaganda will be enough to make it a close enough election for them to steal.

  • 11 votes
#1.20 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:45 AM EST
WaltUU

Then we can have Biden succeed Obama

I truly hope Biden steps aside, and does so in an organized manner that passes the baton smoothly onto someone else.

Biden will be 73 in 2016. Biden is as old, now, as Reagan was when he was first elected, and Reagan is the oldest man ever elected to the office of the presidency. While it may seem ageist, it isn't: Biden is not only old, but he's not a remarkably healthy man (something which Barack Obama is). Biden has suffered from cerebral aneurysms and from atrial fibrillation. Indeed, it was the fact that Obama is so healthy that made so many folks feel comfortable voting for Obama/Biden in 2008 - the chances of health problems affecting Obama are so remarkably low that that makes up for Biden's medical history. But four years from now, Biden will be older than many of our parents lived, and he wouldn't be the "backup quarterback" anymore but the first stringer, so his medical history would be just too much to overcome.

I've heard talk of Sanders/Warren 2016. Just musings I'm sure.

  • 7 votes
#1.21 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:50 AM EST
stormshadow

I'd suggested a constitutional amendment some time ago that if your last name is Bush you're not ALLOWED to run for POTUS again. Guess it didn't take off as well as I'd hoped.

With that said, The CONCEPT of yet another BUSH in the freaking WH would finally be the straw that would send me to Canada.

  • 15 votes
#1.22 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:57 AM EST
Ron West-513664

You talking Bernie Sanders? I love the guy but he's as old or older than Biden. I'm hoping nothing medically happens to Biden but having him not finish a second term and installing the next viable candidate to complete his term would be ideal. I doubt Biden's ego would let him do it but he would gain in stature with me and a lot of Dems. Has a sitting VP ever taken one for the team?

  • 3 votes
#1.23 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:02 AM EST
mountainmike-1199289

“publicly call for the party to find a new candidate,” likely former Florida Governor Jeb Bush.

Good grief! How out of touch with America can you get. Even the Republican Party wants to forget George W Bush, and now someone is suggesting his brother run for office. The George W Bush was a neo con administration led by Dick Cheney. Maybe they can put Cheney in a Dr Strangelove type electric wheelchair with oxygen. Then we can invade Iran and start another multi trillion dollar quagmire to feed contracts to the military industrial complex.

The Republican Party has been dealing with the problem of how to assimilate Teapublicans and accommodate the right wing and retain their independents, moderates and cross over voters. The question of how to win the primaries has been concessions to the right wing. The problem is that this has alienated the independents, moderates and cross over voters. If they don't show up at the ballot box to vote Republican in 2012 in the general election, it can be assumed that they are not going to win the election.

  • 12 votes
#1.24 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:08 AM EST
TPisFORtheBATHROOM101

Now,pinch-hitting for mitt romney,jeb bush. Different people,same BS. Strike 3...yerrrr' out.

  • 10 votes
#1.25 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:13 AM EST
Buckeye Voter

Maybe they need to hold more debates so Republican voters can make up their minds.

  • 9 votes
#1.26 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:16 AM EST
determined0a1

The Dems "accommodate" all the branches that could help them to be eleted.

  • 1 vote
#1.27 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:17 AM EST
WaltUU

Yeah, now that I think about it, I'm not sure I'm keen on Sanders myself. Just put Warren at the top of the ticket, maybe paired with Steve Beshear (nothing about the guy specifically, just playing demographics there)?

  • 4 votes
#1.28 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:20 AM EST
L'EMPEREUR du POLE NORD

NEWS FLASH,

Sarah Palin says she is ready to go.

  • 4 votes
#1.29 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:24 AM EST
CMlawyer

Isn't part of what is really interesting about this is that the GOP does not consider, Santorum, Paul or Gingrich as viable options? It's Rmoney or go to a Hail Mary with Jeb Bush. Ha. If that's the best they can do, we're ready for them.

  • 11 votes
#1.30 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:28 AM EST
Zoolopolis

CCArm

Then we can have Biden Warren succeed Obama.

Now doesn't that sound better Zoo?

Whatever floats your boat. As long as it's not a GOP Clown.

  • 12 votes
#1.31 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:02 PM EST
Rorschach-558483

determined0a1

Jeb has been received more inside out scrutiny than the Dems candidates.

When and where?

The Bush name is pretty much rolled in the dirt and pooped upon since Dubya. This ain't happening.

  • 10 votes
#1.32 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:04 PM EST
GA GUY

YES! Jeb Bush?! YES! He's WAAAYYY Better!...//s//...

  • 12 votes
#1.33 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:04 PM EST
Zoolopolis

Thinknaboutit

They knew econ was going to be bad for a few years. Let Democrats take the blame. Then swoop in to claim recovery in 2016.

That may have been their plan before their obstruction failed and the economy started picking up. Their backup plan of thinning out the lower income voters is still in full swing though. Now they are hoping that voter suppresion along with the fright-wing propaganda will be enough to make it a close enough election for them to steal.

You've got their playbook down to a tee.

We've just got to show up in large enough numbers to prevent them from doing it.

  • 12 votes
#1.34 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:07 PM EST
Rhazes

We had enough Bush's as POTUS.

  • 11 votes
#1.35 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:31 PM EST
Happily BLUE in Ohio

Even the Republican Party wants to forget George W Bush, and now someone is suggesting his brother run for office.

The rethuglicons are so desperate at this point, if they could draft a Cheney-Rumsfeld ticket at this point and they would think they'd won the Powerball lottery!

  • 7 votes
#1.36 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:37 PM EST
StevieGee

It would be hard to come up with a better way to throw an election.

  • 3 votes
#1.37 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:58 PM EST
mountainmike-1199289

Jeb Bush? The same Republi-Frankenstein monster body with a Jeb head sewn on.

  • 7 votes
#1.38 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:04 PM EST
Adler315

Buckeye Voter @ #1.26:

Maybe they need to hold more debates so Republican voters can make up their minds.

I realize full well, Buckeye, that you were being facetious—partially, at least—but there is actually a great deal of truth in what you are saying. After eight seemingly interminable years of seeing this nation pillaged by rampant deregulation and virtually brought to the edge of the abyss by unbridled selfishness and greed; of being duped into prosecuting a needless, nightmarish war of attrition in Iraq that brought tragic death and disfigurement to hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and tens of thousands of [primarily] American and British military personnel; of witnessing the relentless diminishment of our stature in the international community by the likes of brazen, consciousless brigands like George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, et al., and now after more than twenty-five GOP debates featuring a motley crew of world-class hypocrites, grifters and nincompoops in this endless election cycle, dyed-in-the-wool Republicans still don't get the fact that the wool has been pulled over their eyes. Unless they are members of the privileged inner circle, initiates of a fiercely clannish economic and political elite, they are being offered nothing of any real or lasting value: their candidates are phantoms.

The nature of political discourse and of the dissemination of [dis]information in this country—the ebb and flow of the entire American electoral process—has clearly morphed over these past forty or fifty years into something truly insidious, a surreal and often inhuman hybrid of misogyny, homophobia, racism, and sadomasochism. It is far worse than an aberration: it has become a perversion. Apparently, that's the red meat upon which many misguided Americans thrive, and they're clamoring for more.

Bushwhacked.

  • 5 votes
#1.39 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:09 PM EST
MJL-3

Jeb wouldn't get it, too many skeleton in his closet, however he has already come out and said he might, might consider 2016 but not now, it is too late.

  • 5 votes
#1.40 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:12 PM EST
skeptic-227981

So, essentially, Karl Rove has already admitted defeat, called for a "do over" and even invoked the one political name which will ensure Obama's re-election - because we all know that every misstep of the other two Bush's will be plastered all over the TV screens, newspaper ads, and the blogosphere. Let's not forget that we now have many conservatives, GOP, and TP ON RECORD saying they didn't like what Bush did. Those pronouncements are golden in ads.

If the GOP is SOOOOOO inept, that it hasn't been able to come up with a viable candidate, out of the original NINE prospects, what makes anyone think the GOP could possibly lead this country?

Good one, Karl. Keep up the good work.

  • 4 votes
#1.41 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:52 PM EST
Monkey99

Geez....

Why don't they just call for Bozo the Clown or Ronald Mc Donald???

At least those two would actually FIT the perception of this GOP primary. Ronald, especially, since Bozo never hawked anything.

  • 4 votes
#1.42 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:55 PM EST
determined0a1

How many nasty posts about the former Governor Bush!

Ok, then....bring Sarah.

  • 2 votes
#1.43 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:25 PM EST
stormshadow

by all means bring on Sarah Failin!

We could use another laugh line or 50 from her! :)

  • 3 votes
#1.44 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:38 PM EST
Topcat Roosevelt

By all means...Bring the quitter. We are looking for a rout after all and the one that claims to be undefeated is thoroughly defeatable

  • 4 votes
#1.45 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:17 PM EST
determined0a1

Oh top, weneverknowuntilallthevotesarecounted.

  • 1 vote
#1.46 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:22 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

Oh top, weneverknowuntilallthevotesarecounted.

Hopefully ALL the votes will be counted.

  • 1 vote
#1.47 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:39 PM EST
abolish taxes

BWhahahahaha, The GOP is in dire straits.

  • 2 votes
#1.48 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:45 PM EST
Rorschach-558483

determined0a1

How many nasty posts about the former Governor Bush!

Ok, then....bring Sarah.

Wow, determined - you Republicans really are throwing in the towel, aren't you?

I really do hope you guys drag your party back from the far-right edge of never and reclaim reality. The country needs two viable parties. All this purity testing going on with the GOP just makes moderates shake their heads.

The next Republican pol who uses the term "RINO" should be thrown a blanket party - by the rest of the Republican Party.

  • 7 votes
#1.49 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:36 AM EST
WaltUU

I really do hope you guys drag your party back from the far-right edge of never and reclaim reality. The country needs two viable parties. All this purity testing going on with the GOP just makes moderates shake their heads.

As a former GOP supporter, I've given up on ever being able to recover anything "viable" from the detritus that is the half-egocentric-self-enriching, and half-reactionary-theocratic two-headed monster that is today's Republican Party.

My hope, now, is that the GOP simply gets flushed down the toilet, and the Democratic Party splits into two parties due to the excessive weight of representing what would by then be such a vast majority of Americans.

  • 9 votes
#1.50 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:48 AM EST
determined0a1

Wow, determined - you Republicans really are throwing in the towel, aren't  you?

Nah, but it's interesting to read all kind of nasty posts about anyone that the name is mentioned as possible candidate for the elections.

I don't give a penny for the GOP/Rep party. Therefore now I consider myself an Independent voter.

I would like to see in the perfect nominee:

The savvy of Newt.

The class of Mitt.

Demonizing Sarah, Mitt, Newt, Ron and even Santorum (I can't stand him) is not the way to gain votes for our gracious President. We are not in the time of Al Capone.

  • 1 vote
#1.51 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:36 AM EST
Rorschach-558483

determined0a1

... it's interesting to read all kind of nasty posts about anyone that the name is mentioned as possible candidate for the elections.

Well - in all seriousness, that's because with the exception of former candidate Jon Huntsman, not a single one of the "conservative" field of candidates fighting for the GOP nomination is worth either a bucket of warm spit, or any consideration whatsoever from me. Think what you will, but trust me on this -- I am very much a middle ground voter on a lot of levels, and this GOP bears no resemblance to anything I've known from them in 45 years of voting.

Let me clarify: I think several of them have legitimate psych/personality issues -- borderline personality, sociopathy, narcissism -- if they aren't halfway down the road to insane.

Huntsman's moderate enough and sensible enough to have made a viable candidate. Sure, he pandered to the far right like the rest, but then - not really like the rest. They couldn't get on their knees for the RWNJs fast enough. That's why Huntsman's out of the race.

determined0a1, you've been on the right side of the aisle for some time: can you please explain to me how, and why, the GOP's gotten hooked on the litmus tests, party purity demands, and on labeling anyone remotely centrist as a RINO - then politically deporting them?

I fail to see how any moderates and independents can look at the way this has all shaken out in the last few years, and not be completely disgusted.

  • 5 votes
#1.52 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:59 PM EST
HappyToSeeYa

@1.8
WaltUU
No, they reported what an unnamed source insinuated to them, something which has been a mainstay of respectable and respect-worthy journalism for ages.

AKA gossip

I agree, MSM gossip has a genteel veneer of respectability that has been gained over many years. This seeded article reeks with somebody telling somebody something on the QT . . . which . . . is . . . gossip. We are party to giving it respectability even as we see how perverted this type of 'news' has become.

    #1.53 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:22 PM EST
    determined0a1

    I am a conservative since I was born. Not for some time.

    The more rabid that the Dems/Left get the more fun that it's produced because the Party is as full of mud as the Republicans, the only difference is that the Dems try very hard to sweep it under the rug of : the poor, the immigrants, the rest of whoever they can find to have their vote, go to the "sleep" mode every 4 years.

    • 1 vote
    #1.54 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:48 PM EST
    Rorschach-558483

    determined0a1

    I am a conservative since I was born. Not for some time.

    Born with an elephant-shaped birthmark? :)

    • 4 votes
    #1.55 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:57 PM EST
    determined0a1

    The Dems convinced moi that they were not the role model to follow.

    • 1 vote
    #1.56 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:42 PM EST
    WaltUU

    Claiming that you were indoctrinated into a cult when you were a child, before your faculties were fully developed, instead of joining it of your own accord, once you were intelligent and responsible enough to make decisions for yourself, may gain you pity, but it doesn't actually gain you any other deference, if what you're aligned yourself to is itself indefensible.

    • 5 votes
    #1.57 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:12 AM EST
    abolish taxes

    The Dems convinced moi that they were not the role model to follow.

    Yea, because the gay bashing, anti-science, anti-education, anti-women's rights Republican Party is such a great role model. LMFAO. I always find it funny when people can longer say they are Republican yet they get so offended when people point out exactly how ridiculous the Republican party has become due to the take over by the Religious Right in this country, yet you never see them offended by Republicans bashing Democrats.

    • 2 votes
    #1.58 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:20 PM EST
    Reply
    BD Styers

    Soph, you beat me to it by 34 minutes. I was playing chess. This is hilarious, but I doubt the parody tag applies.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:00 AM EST
    Ggap

    Soph, you beat me to it by 34 minutes. I was playing chess

    ....A t-repug's response, on a different topic of course; Patriot, you beat me to it by 34 minutes. I was playing checkers. Sorry, but I couldn't resist that one.

      #2.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:37 AM EST
      Soph0571

      Soph, you beat me to it by 34 minutes.

      Hell what time do you get up, or go to bed? Or are you a secret Brit? LOL

      • 3 votes
      #2.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:35 PM EST
      BD Styers

      Open all night, and I do watch BBC.

      • 2 votes
      #2.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:34 AM EST
      Reply
      Terry Yoder

      Talk about acts of desperation! But why go to such extreme? Romney needn't call anyone but just call it quits.

      • 10 votes
      Reply#3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:26 AM EST
      michelle-1073610

      Watching the Repubs eat their own has become my favorite pastime this year. Talk about blowing away millions the Repubs have made it an artform. Keep it up, you need restruturing if you want to survive as a viable alternative to the Dems. So far, all you Repubs have managed to do is "severly" wound your own, and we love it.

      • 21 votes
      Reply#4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:38 AM EST
      markpup

      Romney's the guy that said the auto bailout was a bad idea?

      The only thing going in Romney's favor on this one is Santorum's dumb enough to do that too.

      I'm looking forward to him coming to California and saying Disneyland's overrated and we spend too much time at the beach.

      • 19 votes
      Reply#5 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:55 AM EST
      Ted 050247

      Hey Teapublicans-your field of 8 was the best and brightest of the Republicans in the country.

      Serial cheaters, liars, phonies, crooks, adulterers, flip floppers, and government welfare receipients. Don't forget their support team of birthers and serial bankrupters.

      Yep-the Teapublican Taliban that wants to shut the government down to prove a point about smaller government-but, but, but 70% of them are adamant----don't touch my Medicare. You know-Medicare that SOCIALIST program.

      The Teapublican Taliban that wants this country to fail because a black man is President, the Teapublican Taliban that is more worried about taking away womens rights than jobs, more worried about what goes on in people bedrooms than jobs. Yep-that's them.

      Dear Teapublicans-this field of liars, crazies, and cheats is the best you have to offer, you picked em, so you stick with em.

      The more the Republicans talk, the more the country can see what a bunch of self serving losers they are. They do not have one credible plan to help this country, Unless taking this country into another war, or taking this country backwards 200 yrs counts.

      Good job-keep up the good work.

      • 32 votes
      Reply#6 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:01 AM EST
      BD Styers

      Don't forget the 'think tank' advocates.

      • 9 votes
      #6.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:49 AM EST
      DonnaJ

      Ted, your comment is right on the money and perfectly expresses my own sentiments regarding the Amazing Teapublican Follies of 2011 - 2012.

      May I have you permission to copy and repost?

      FR sent, btw.

      • 4 votes
      #6.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:35 PM EST
      mountainmike-1199289

      I guess the PNAC think tank neo cons are still in hiding planning a come back for our Iran War of the future. Iranians will throw flowers at our feet as liberators, Iranian oil will pay for the invasion, ad nauseum... Maybe they'll wheel out Dick Cheney in a Dr Strangelove electric wheelchair ready to waterboard more people.

      • 5 votes
      #6.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:08 PM EST
      Ted 050247

      Donna--copy away

      FR gladly accepted

      • 4 votes
      #6.4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:37 PM EST
      Reply
      demdame

      They should change their theme song to "I Need a Hero"

      • 12 votes
      Reply#7 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:30 AM EST
      agagnu

      We have already heard Trump Palin hinting, and now Bush, to complete the triangle to keep all sides entertained and the cable channels Keeping busy reaping in millions from super pac Ads
      (check out their share values)
      No Bush, and Christie, will not want to tarnish their standing for 2016.

      • 13 votes
      Reply#8 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:06 AM EST
      BD Styers

      Well, y'know according to the Mayan calendar, there is no 2016, so those guys are just stupid.

      • 14 votes
      #8.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:10 AM EST
      Topcat Roosevelt

      I demand to see Christie's Girth Certificate before he runs for anything, be it a presidential election or a candy machine.He should travel with a defibrillator.

      • 4 votes
      #8.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:22 PM EST
      stormshadow

      Top-- ^5 for Girth Cert! lol

      awesome line!

      • 2 votes
      #8.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:26 PM EST
      determined0a1

      Mocking at another human being isn't humanitarian.

      • 1 vote
      #8.4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:28 PM EST
      stormshadow

      Unlike the GOTP I don't claim to be humanitarian.

      I'm nice enough certainly, but the lies, BS and rhetoric that the repugs keep spewing daily is really enough to piss off even the MOST patient person.

      • 5 votes
      #8.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:35 AM EST
      Topcat Roosevelt

      determined0a1
      Mocking at another human being isn't humanitarian.

      I was being humane... Christie seriously couldn't survive a presidential race...he needs to rent a car to take him 100 ft...now if he shed that weight by 2016 ala Huckabee that would be impressive and he would be a threat to Dems in '16...His weight by the way is something that is in his control , unlike sexual preference , which this POS just vetoed away the civil rights... how would he like a public referendum on people who let themselves get so huge their blood type is RAGU and are not permitted to marry?

      • 6 votes
      #8.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:41 PM EST
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      AlKhidr

      In 2000, the GOP stole the election with a Bush, now they want to overrule even their own party's preferences by foisting another Bush. What next? A coup d'etat?

      • 20 votes
      Reply#9 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:13 AM EST
      Lola-Ohio

      The coup d'etat happened with the money and resources during the last Republican administration, now all that's left is to have enough people willing to vote you into total control of whatever democracy we have left. The Bush's are puppets for energy monopolies, they already rule things.

      • 7 votes
      #9.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:31 AM EST
      mountainmike-1199289

      A Bush in hand is worth two in the bird?

      • 2 votes
      #9.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:10 PM EST
      Reply
      dwillie

      If the republican nominee is picked by the party bosses instead of by the party's voters, he will be damaged goods instantly. Between that and the damage that his brother has already done to their name, I don't expect that a draft Bush gambit will result in electoral success.

      • 14 votes
      Reply#10 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:14 AM EST
      Lola-Ohio

      The Republican party bosses have always selected the GOP nominee, they already know all of their candidates will bow to oil and coal companies and funnel money to the top. They all have the same scorched earth policies. Does it really matter, anyway?

      • 4 votes
      #10.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:41 PM EST
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      relativetowhat

      They will not let Santorum win, so Romney losing means a brokered convention.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#11 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:32 AM EST
      dwillie

      Possible re-reg sighting in post 11.

      Do not feed.

      • 6 votes
      #11.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:36 AM EST
      Reply
      Happily BLUE in Ohio

      A brokered convention...that should be even funnier than these primaries....

      • 20 votes
      Reply#12 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:35 AM EST
      mountainmike-1199289

      Maybe Donald Trump and his comb over will make a come back.

      I suppose the Koch brothers own the Republican Party so why not elect them.

      Or since corporations are now people Goldman Sachs or ExxonMobile could be selected.

      • 7 votes
      #12.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:12 PM EST
      Ted 050247

      Hey-Sarah Palin said she was ready to step in for her(self) country.

      Hahahahahaahahahaaahaaaahhhaahahahahahahahahaaaaaahahhhaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • 5 votes
      #12.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:45 PM EST
      Soph0571

      A brokered convention...that should be even funnier than these primaries....

      Popcorn, anyone?

      • 6 votes
      #12.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:37 PM EST
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      newdayDAWNING...RETURNED

      You have to wonder how states who have already held their primaries or caucus would feel about that. Disenfranchises them if that happens, doesn't it? Or maybe Republican leadership is NEVER serious about the "little people" picking the candidate.

      Seems to the Republicans are stuck with this mess. They encouraged the fringe right wing to have that tantrum a couple of summers ago, they are stuck dancing with them now.

      • 19 votes
      Reply#13 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:37 AM EST
      bilweeler

      Sounds like a plot to disenfranchise the GOP base. THAT should go over real well...

      • 7 votes
      Reply#14 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:34 AM EST
      Lola-Ohio

      They don't care, they will do what Rove, Cheney, and Armey tell them to do. And Luntz will get paid for his wordsmithing. They haven't spent all of their millions over the past 4 years in an all out smear campaign to see it go up in flames. They have something up their sleeve, driving gas prices up to 8.00/gallon or something to stick it to the people and blame Obama and the Dems. They are as crooked as a dog's hind leg. Period.

      • 5 votes
      #14.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:55 PM EST
      G. H.

      @#13.......the problem with them being stuck "dancing with them now" is that WE are too! It's outrageous and insane! Vote them ALL out and PLEASE show up to Vote, I'm begging here! :-(

      Obama 2012

      The United States of America will no longer exist with a Bush, Trump, or Palin administration, nor ANY of those running in this inane race.........................

      • 6 votes
      #14.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:39 PM EST
      MJL-3

      YES

      OBAMA 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Dems in 2012

      Dems rule 2012-2024

      GOP extinct !!!!

      • 4 votes
      #14.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:42 PM EST
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      Coral Atlas

      I only hope that Americans render last rights to the GOTP come November.

      It is time to rid ourselves of the GOTP and move ahead as one nation under (anyones) God! indivisible with liberty justice and freedom for all (humans).

      • 13 votes
      Reply#15 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:47 AM EST
      Door King

      Jeb would indeed be a formidible candidate; he participated in the Shivo mess, and is pro-life. He also has the support of Hispanics. It remains to be seen if the base would tear him apart over his fights against off shore drilling and protection of the everglades, and his recent statements concerning Hispanics, who stand with Obama only because there has recently been no other choice.

        Reply#16 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:50 AM EST
        mountainmike-1199289

        Los hispanos no admiten Jeb Bush.

        Hispanics, who stand with Obama only because there has recently been no other choice.

        Obama stacks up as one of the best choices for non white Americans ever.

        • 6 votes
        #16.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:19 PM EST
        Reply
        AlphaDogReporter

        Jeb Bush running for President would be the Democrats wet dream, bring it.

        • 9 votes
        Reply#17 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:54 AM EST
        12lbc

        Y-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-y! Jeb, Jeb! He's our man! If these other clowns can't do it, another Bush can!

        • 8 votes
        #17.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:21 AM EST
        mountainmike-1199289

        If the Republicans do an end around play to insert a new candidate that could bring the party together, the most likely result is they will be DOA for the general election.

        • 2 votes
        #17.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:21 PM EST
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        Rick_VT

        I lived in Florida when Jeb was in office.

        Although I'd hate to see another Bush in the White House, Jeb Bush would make a better, saner, more centrist president than any of the current crop of GOP wannabe clowns. He wouldn't beat Obama in the race though.

        • 8 votes
        Reply#18 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:54 AM EST
        12lbc

        The GOP has convinced their base and been convinced by their base that 'centrist' is poison.

        • 10 votes
        #18.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:23 AM EST
        Rick_VT

        Right you are. sigh.

        • 1 vote
        #18.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:45 PM EST
        Reply
        Spike Evans

        Sorry, but a third Bush in the White House. It ain't gonna happen. I don't care how nice a guy Jeb may be, but his brother totally messed up any and all aspirations Jeb may have for becoming President. I might take this more seriously if this undisclosed Senator was talking about recruiting.....I don't know.....Mike Huckabee, maybe?

        • 7 votes
        Reply#19 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:04 AM EST
        Cipher-0

        Bush #1: Massive deficits for no reason, recession, war in middle east (at least he didn't @!$%# it up)

        Bush #2: Massive deficits for no reason, recession, war in middle east and asia

        Can we NOT get Bush #3, please?

        • 10 votes
        Reply#20 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:29 AM EST
        Rick_VT

        Would you rather just lie back and get a santorum? The prospect is icky either way.

        • 1 vote
        #20.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:47 PM EST
        Cipher-0

        Santorum has zero chance of winning a national election. All the Obama PACs will have to do is play back anything Santorum has said with the caption, "Do you really want his finger anywhere near the nuclear option?"

        • 4 votes
        #20.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:18 PM EST
        determined0a1

         All the Obama PACs will have to do is play back anything Santorum has said with the caption, "Do you really want his finger anywhere near the nuclear option?"

        Do you think that the gracious President Obama PACs could fool the other half of the voters in America?

        • 1 vote
        #20.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:45 PM EST
        Cipher-0

        Do you think that the gracious President Obama PACs could fool the other half of the voters in America?

        Thus implying half the country would vote for Santorum? Really?

        I've got a couple of diehard republican relatives that think he's a total religious nutter (hint: He is) and would be far far worse than Obama if elected.

        I honestly wish the GOP could find someone who's not insane or blindly obvious in their desire to turn the USA into a Christian theocracy to run. I really do.

        • 3 votes
        #20.4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:57 PM EST
        Reply
        determined0a1

        a b o

        • 2 votes
        Reply#21 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:30 AM EST
        bilweeler

        determined:

        a b o

        Brilliant defense of your position. "Anybody but Obama" is not an argument. It's not even a good bumper sticker.

        • 7 votes
        #21.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:47 AM EST
        determined0a1

        The Dems did it in 2004: a b b

        What is good for the goose is good for the gender.

        • 1 vote
        #21.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:57 AM EST
        bilweeler

        determined:

        What is good for the goose is good for the gender.

        Spell check didn't get that one, did it?

        Seriously. If that's the best argument you've got for 2012, prepare to be disappointed.

        • 9 votes
        #21.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:07 AM EST
        determined0a1

        There is always a 2016.

        • 1 vote
        #21.4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:19 AM EST
        Lola-Ohio

        bilweeler, there is no defense for the position. Obama is the only conservative in the race, period.

        • 7 votes
        #21.5 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:42 AM EST
        bilweeler

        Lola:

        Obama is the only conservative in the race, period.

        Sad but true. Even so, that makes him the obvious choice. "Conservative" is a much better adjective than "crazy." Just don't tell the GOP. They think "crazy" is a compliment.

        • 6 votes
        #21.6 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:17 PM EST
        euterpe-1641499

        determined - Jeb will have the same problem that Mitt has today. Remember - this is the Grandiose Old Party we're talking about.

        • 4 votes
        #21.7 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:30 PM EST
        determined0a1

        It's a very good fun to read how the nastier comments in NV are brought from the followers of the Dem Party. Civility? My foot!.

          #21.8 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:56 PM EST
          Reply
          keepfreepress

          Not another Bush! That will make the GOP look even worse than it already does. They have terrible ideas, terrible candidates, and have behaved so badly during this nominating process that voters will be even more upset if the GOP wasted over a year and couldn't come up with a leader so they scramble at the last minute.

          • 7 votes
          Reply#22 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:37 AM EST
          determined0a1

          Well, you don't have to vote.

          • 1 vote
          #22.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:58 AM EST
          mountainmike-1199289

          I'm bushed with Bushes. America would probably quit beating around the Bush and start beating on Bush. George W Bush and Dick Cheney lied their butts off to get war powers to invade Iraq. Get a clue! That cannot be forgiven, ever. Republicans are out of touch with mainstream America if the select Jeb Bush to run as their nominee in 2012.

          • 7 votes
          #22.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:24 PM EST
          Topcat Roosevelt

          I got to say, Bush 1 was the best President in the last 30 years. Oh scratch that,the best Republican president. He was thoroughly screw by reagan's voodoo economics , a sagging market and sporadic employment gains...It because of ronnie Bushs' avg annual deficit blossomed from Reagans 260 billion a year to a staggering 360 billion a year...and at least he managed the war he choose successfully not like his dimwitted son. He also looked like Oscar Goldman from the 6 million dollar man.

            #22.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:07 PM EST
            Reply
            Spike Evans

            This will be as simple as ABC.

            A Brokered Convention.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#23 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:26 AM EST
            MARofMICH

            Mitt is trying to buy love here in Mi. with about 4(M) to 1(S) tv advertisement and phone calls. Mitt your prerecorded phone calls are not welcome here, You turned your back on Michigan in 2009. We will not forget.

            • 5 votes
            Reply#24 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:27 AM EST
            determined0a1

            However, his $4M pouring in your State are welcome by others.

            • 2 votes
            #24.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:57 PM EST
            MARofMICH

            I welcome the $$$ but I ain't buying what Mitt is selling.

              #24.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:43 PM EST
              determined0a1

              Expected.

              • 1 vote
              #24.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:59 PM EST
              Reply
              Lebam

              Who in their right mind would put another Bush in the WH?

              • 6 votes
              Reply#25 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:34 AM EST
              jen-793050

              The same numbskulls that voted Shrub in twice.

              • 5 votes
              #25.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:50 AM EST
              Lola-Ohio

              Yeah, the GOP is not done robbing the entire treasury yet, there must be quite a bit of money in the social security fund, otherwise they would not be wanting it so badly, otherwise if what they are saying is really true, why not let it wither on the vine. Besides this Bush can finish shredding the Cheney administrations of the last 4 decades and rewrite history to make it look like it all happened under the Dems. The Republicans are run by the energy giants and are needed in office so they can grab land and sift all of the money into as few as hands as possible, a corporate-run government using religious zealots to control the masses.

              • 4 votes
              #25.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:28 PM EST
              are you crazy?-1425777

              Who in their right mind would put another Bush in the WH?- understand he is the smarter of two brothers which in bush speak probably means he had to show W how to find the tootsie rolls buried in the cat's litter box. We don't need another republican and sure as hell don't need another bush.

              • 3 votes
              #25.3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:25 PM EST
              MalamuteMan

              Who in their right mind would put another Bush in the WH?

              Sadly... LOTS of people... Okay, I get your point about "right mind"... but half the country (or something close) would be happy to have ANYBODY but President Obama in the White House. Rational thinking went out the window a long time ago for many of these people.

              • 1 vote
              #25.4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:47 PM EST
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