Former Navy Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt, who founded the lobbying group The Pray In Jesus Name Project, said on Tuesday that he possesses the power to “exorcise” the gay right out of people, including one of the nation’s leading LGBT advocates.

Klingenschmitt, whose prior comments on LGBT people have raised more than just a few eyebrows, made his latest remark on Tuesday’s episode of The David Pakman Show. The last time Klingenschmitt appeared with Pakman, he ended up claiming that LGBT people secrete evil spirits that infect animals and turn them gay as well.

He didn’t fare much better on his second attempt.